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English => Feature requests => Topic started by: Guest on November 02, 2003, 09:08:55 PM
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how about changing the upload ratio to 3k upload to get full download?
if you have 768/128 dsl and 2 donkey boxes on the network 10k minimum is simply impossible
you cant even surf anymore and it slows the whole download
please consider this
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Original von username
how about changing the upload ratio to 3k upload to get full download?
You're joking?!? :evil: Did you understand the idea of filesharing??? If you run aMule in 2 boxes take an upload of 5. This setting allows you a download of 20 for each box. That should be enought.
Gruß
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Nothing to add ...
Thanks to ZwiebelZ ;-)
A++
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Ok. I know and appreciate sharing. And I also think that no limit download should not be.
But see this, in Turkey %95 of broadband users (if we can call this broadband) is 128/32. Thus with emule you can not even top 16Kbyte/sec max because if you give 3Kb to upload, everything almost stops.
Mldonkey has a minimum of 1Kb upload, which is fine, so you can top 16K.
Now, considering the modem users and not-so broadbands, can't you let 1Kb upload up till let say 15K download ? You can let the usual download ratios after this narrow band limit, considering the max you can download from a 128/32 is 2,5K or so practically.
This is not a request for leeching. I'm using Mldonkey and happy with that. But seeing that amule is a promising client I thought this can be a good policy.
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thats just stupid bullshit
you dont even know how long im online
what im im online 24/7 and only get myself a movie once a week
that user capped even when capped to 3k upload still serves the net
its better than not having him online
im too lazy to go into math now cause this has been talked about several hundred times
even low upload / high download users are good for the system as files spread faster
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I understand the problem, I had even a 150/32 connection! then they upgraded to 256/64, now its 512/128. but back then (;)) i didnt like the max/min setting too. I had alot troubles choosing the right setting. but I think its still not fair to let ppl download much much more than they upload, every bit that is downloaded by someone must be uploaded by someone else...
anyway, I think it whould be usefull to make an different setting for low speeds - like nameless said. something which whould serve the 128/32 users. lets say 1/6 so they could make 12 down 2 up, thats quite fair. it might even be a seperate option - "low upload speed" - setting for example - but make clear its intended for those who CANNOT upload, not for those who want to limit upload (why whould you want that?)
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I exactly would like that low-speed setting.
As I said, unless it was stopping my whole Internet traffic by 3kb upload why should I limit the upload. This is a setting lacking in emule and others and it may be just the thing to win low bandwith users. Something like 2/12 would be fine.
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well then lets cry out LOUD to the devs for this, i think its quite easy to implement ;-)
cry cry cry Kry?!? 8)
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Here in Israel I got 1500/96 kbps line (it's not a joke). So, with aMule 1:4 limit I can download only at 1/3 of my line capacity. Suggestion - make upload rate setting like in mldonkey - you can never set it to 0, only 1 and up.
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Well is not that I have nothing to say at thins - It's that is should be pretty clear by itself.
That's not against oyu in anyway. The ul:dl ratio was implemented on eMule, and lmule/xmule/amule got it from there. And it's a good thing, 'cos it forces users to upload at least 1/3 of what they d/l. That's pretty fair IMHO.
Problem is: what f the user cannot u/l at enought speed to get best d/l speed with 1/3 ratio?
Well, I say: sorry.
We cannot remove the ratio, neither raise it or add a "low upload speed" button, 'cos, you know, world it's full of leechers. I'm not calling you leechers, but if we remove the ratio, we're harming the network FOR SURE.
Cannot be done guys... sorry. Hope you get better connection soon.
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Go install some traffic shaping script like wondershaper. Then you should be able to set the upload to 10 without killing your connection.
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@kry: but couldnt there be a low-upload-users setting for the users with some 128/32 or whatever, so they can have a decent speed too? just a button like "low upload speed on my line" or whatever, or autodetection (if someone gives his up/down limits) so there is only one exeption on the 1/3-rule.
I mean the rule is meant to avoid leechers, but is bad for ppl who can't help it - so there should be some exeption imho.
an setting for the ppl with a 128/32 like 12d/2u whould be nice.
I dont have problems with the current settings, but some do, I understand that.
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C'mon guys. it's a network feature, eMule does the same, and I'm sorry but we cannot get rid of the up/down ratio.
We cannot provide it for the same reason guns must not be free. Good people use it properly, other do not.
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emule have over 2mio dl's / version and the up/dl ratio never changed ..
we don't allow such things like emule devs w'll never allow it too.. sorry
it's nothing against you
greets
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My problem is a litle different, i am a 10Gbyte/Mount amount of tranfer, i need to limit to this.
i can put the uplad to 10k, but when i need download i am limited by the provaider or pay more. then i am forced to limit to 1k or 2k all the mont exept when downloading.
aMule can use a global mesure of data tranfer to determine limits, a user has upload 5Gb and has donload onely 1G of data can download with no speed limit!!
i need to say amule to upload a maximu of 7G/ mount too
this can help low band users (change G for a smoller multiplicator)
Best Regards
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Originally posted by GuerreroPeludo
My problem is a litle different, i am a 10Gbyte/Mount amount of tranfer, i need to limit to this.
i can put the uplad to 10k, but when i need download i am limited by the provaider or pay more. then i am forced to limit to 1k or 2k all the mont exept when downloading.
aMule can use a global mesure of data tranfer to determine limits, a user has upload 5Gb and has donload onely 1G of data can download with no speed limit!!
i need to say amule to upload a maximu of 7G/ mount too
this can help low band users (change G for a smoller multiplicator)
Best Regards
If i understood you correctly, you have a 10Gbyte upload+download limit, right?
If thats the case, emule is not for you, sorry; it needs unlimited upload, since you will be uploading constantly but waiting for downloads.
Thats the way it is, not much can be done.
For your case, i would try another P2P, like Bit Torrent, or use IRC xCC or FTP.
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You can check in statistics the amount of bytes that've been transfered. Checking that it's not got to 10GB in the upload total would be enough. You can download up to that point so, aMule is useful untill then. Most other P2P networks have the same problem and, anyway, using a P2P network and not sharing is, not only selfish, but also not caring about the networks live, so it is also bad for you. Limit you upload speed if needed (limitting it to 10KBps would be enough to have an unlimited download speed).
Greetings!
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i want share, i eavy donwload rarelly , if amule think in these limit i can use it all the time for share. but as it not make it, i stop it to avoid over usage of my concetion and later i forget to reactivate it the next mount. Finaly i share no more than 10 or 20 G / year, were i can share near 120G !. i think all adsl users has the some problem. (at last in belgium and french.)
i request a quota suport for emule, not really a upload/download ratio change, eventualy a auto riser upload speed when download can help to limit exesive usage too and alow a controled amount of sharing. finally a conditional upload/download ratio change can be used too.
Think different! (as mac users ;-) )
Best Regards
GuerreroPeludo