aMule Forum
English => Feature requests => Topic started by: kujirasan on September 15, 2008, 01:45:34 PM
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It is no possible to exchange message due to lack of CAPTCHAS for authentication etc, how can one overcome this?
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Sorry, I do not understand. Please explain the concept of a capchat.
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eMule has captchas for messaging now, wuischke.
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CAPTCHA for messaging? My imagination would not go that far ...
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Definitely!
It's nearly impossible now to chat with eMule users, as long as this feature is useful (maybe now it will be used more).
Until now, the chat feature is used only for spamming, most users ignore it, I think this feature should be implemented soon!
Bye.
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Or to go the other way and throw out the messaging system in generell. It's years since I've recieved a usefull message. Today there is only mod-spam.
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i'm new to amule . Do people not ever chat on it? How do people find like-minded people to share files in a more direct way so as to save time sifting through so much to find what you want with a good quality picture? Is this captchas something that can make that possible?.. or is there an IRC channel? thanks
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Spams have overtaken the chat for years.
The only use of chat in the old days is to plead for jumping the queue. Unfortunately, unlike other p2p applications, amule will not allow you to manually bias either positively or negatively towards anyone on their priorities to download from you.
Honestly, I am curious to know if there is any good reason not to remove the chat feature.
i'm new to amule . Do people not ever chat on it? How do people find like-minded people to share files in a more direct way so as to save time sifting through so much to find what you want with a good quality picture? Is this captchas something that can make that possible?.. or is there an IRC channel? thanks
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thank you. Sounds like chat is useless now. So how and where specifically do ed2k/kad people connect to discuss files?
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Good question. If u know, do tell me.
thank you. Sounds like chat is useless now. So how and where specifically do ed2k/kad people connect to discuss files?
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There are websites offering ed2k links, and many of these also have a forum where people discuss files. But I think posting links to these is against forum rules.
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There is flurry of paranoia here, the chat is very limited in the mule, and one of its main use can be to warn others of the presence of prevalent and endemic Trojan viruses, Internet is a two edged sword and can be subject to abuse etc, but just ignore it. I managed to communicate with one person, and he left his computer on, so I could down load effectively and that file saved my friend's business from going down the gurgler
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if you have a friend in mule world, you are gonna chat else were such as external irc or forum, imho chat feature in the mule program itself is pointless.
ty.
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Agreed. It's mostly spam-only nowadays.
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I think you're wrong, the chat is very usefull in ed2k. For example, if you want to dowload a file with few sources you want to ask the uploader for a slot, or give him an advice that he's the one who is sharing the file. As you don't know the uploader of the file, the aMule chat is the only way to contact him.
I've tested aMule 2.2.2-2 in Windows Vista 32 bits, and I've could chat with eMule users without problem. However I can't do it with aMule 2.2.2 in Ubuntu 8.10 (amd64). I try to chat WITH THE SAME USERS and I recieve an aMule message advertising me that the user I want to chat require that I solve a captcha, and that as I haven't captchas enabled I can't chat with him. A few seconds after, aMule closes without any error message.
I can't understand why the aMule chat worked for me in Windows, and didn't work in linux. Maybe it's the different architecture 32-64 bits of my operating systems, or maybe it worked in Windows because I also have installed eMule 0.49b.
Could you please fix the chat captcha problem in future versions? Thanks.
PD: Sorry for my bad English, I'm Spanish.
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I support this request. Since it seems all Windows users have updated to eMule 49b and this "captcha" feature is enabled by default, it's impossible for me to chat other people.
I think it's up to the users whether chatting is useful or not.
Thank you in advance.
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I have used the chat several times to get files with only one source. I contact the uploader, ask him to set the file to release and voila!
Regards.
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I also get the error:
http://emule-project.net: In order to avoid spam messages, this user requires you to solve a captcha before you can send a message to him. However your client does not supports captchas, so you will not be able to chat with this user.
I would like to request aMule upgrade its chat libraries to include this. I am using the SVN rev. 9251, and it is still not released in this pre-2.2.3.
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There are currently no efforts to implement this feature, due to different individual development priorities. Patches are, however, welcome.
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I strongly disagree with all of you dissin' chat on ed2k. I even solved some non-related IT problems by chatting with someone on 'mule. It's those fucking captchas that are the problem. What a pain in the ass ! That kind of shit is fit for a public website, not a p2p client. Besides there are much less intrusive ways of dealing with spam. I use auto-banning by the message filter, added via minor tweak to the source code. I wouldn't bet my nuts on this but I believe the mainstream eMule client already had this implemented for a while, so why now make people decipher some awful graffiti just to talk to a fellow peer? All of you discontent with this "feature" should lobby eMule developers over at their forums to have it at least turned off by default if not removed altogether, as I'm sure tons of users never even have a clue that their chat is being blocked 'under the hood'.
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All of you discontent with this "feature" should lobby eMule developers over at their forums to have it at least turned off by default if not removed altogether
Be my guest to do just that. I'm sure this was discussed lengthy on the eMule board before the decision was reached. No need to discuss here what we can't change anyway.
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I also set the spam filter in the aMule preferences, but I think there's a whole bunch of people who don't know how to do either and don't use the chat feature because they see that just as a spam vehicle, so they think they will not be replied.
So I think captcha is welcome, it is making chat more useful for those eMule users.
I hope someone will implement this into aMule.
Bye.
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Chat captchas are implemented in 9436. 8)
(Read only for now, meaning you can answer them, but aMule doesn't generate them itself.)
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Chat captchas are implemented in 9436. 8)
Where have they gone in 2.2.4? Were they removed or could I have excluded them in building aMule?
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They will be included in aMule 2.3.0. The current release aMule 2.2.4 includes only bug fixes and small improvements, but no new features.
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They will be included in aMule 2.3.0. The current release aMule 2.2.4 includes only bug fixes and small improvements, but no new features.
Ah, that's good to hear. I just came across that limitation in 2.2.4 and was curious if this was being addressed. I have had very meaningful conversations with fellow mulers in the past via the built-in messaging platform. Given the international nature of our network, it has introduced my mind to the thoughts and intentions of various folks worldwide who are downloading files I share. Yes, the spam was annoying, but it was manageable. To me, the utility far outweighs the negatives. Just sayin'.
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Agreed. It's mostly spam-only nowadays.
So, to be consistent: add captchas, or remove messages window.
EDIT: sorry, i didn't read it was included in 2.3.0
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Given the international nature of our network, it has introduced my mind to the thoughts and intentions of various folks worldwide who are downloading files I share.
Sorry, but I simply can't buy it. I speak 4 languages, and use *mule for about 7 year, and _never_ received single human-sourced message. Never. Same apply to my friends (I asked them to confirm my experience).
Maybe this because ICQ and IRC was around long before ed2k?
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That's probably true for most users. But when people share in a small release group (posting watermarks in a forum thread along the way) they might recognize each other in aMule too and start chatting. That's my only explanation.
And if nobody used it, people wouldn't ask for captcha implementation and stuff.
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Hello, Yes, I think the captcha issue will be most useful. I am having trouble to download a medium sized file that I need to assemble a torrent and a direct download release, and the theme, All csárdás versions, concur with this guys view on the subject, because his file is a collection of 33 versions of that work.
Wouldn't that guy slot me his shared file right away if I could let him know that I already have 150 tunes of csárdás and that I'm working hard towards the 200 hits??
I'm sure he'd slot me his file right away, but in this case, I can't text him, and he can't receive my petition, 'cause the program lacks captchas,
so I am condemned to wait maybe a week, and, besides, HE WILL NEVER KNOW of my release, which I'm sure he'd be delighted with.
A pity.
Thank you very much for your attention.
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Chat captchas are available in the SVN version (which will become 2.3 eventually).
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Thanks, Stu Redman. You are truly a Hero.
I finally hit 666 versions of the csardas piece,
and made a torrent of it two days before Christmas day.
Although that 33 collection file is still at 63,2%.
I have yet to upload it to direct download. A hard task it being 6Gb and my ADSL, of just 10 mbps...
Will definitively try your referenced release.
And if it yours, as I reckon, I just can't thank you enough, ever.
I am on the wide opinion that the software guys are the true heart of the Net;
Nothing could be achieved without their brains and skills.
I am deeply touched.
Best Regards.