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[n4mddissent]

I would like to get a high ID.  I made an attempt at port forwarding several months back, to use another p2p program and it didn't seem to work and now I'm trying out amule and can't seem to get it to work either.  Here's my setup.

I have a Motorola (proline) model: E90-610030-06   DSL modem.  Software version 03.08.02  It connects to a Belkin Wireless Router model: F5D9230-4 v5000 Firmware version 5.01.16   My ISP is ATT (formerly Bellsouth Fastaccess) DSL 6.0  The modem is directly connected to the belkin router.  My desktop is directly connected to one of the outgoing belkin ports.  (Only my laptop is connected wirelessly) I only need to set this up on my desktop.

I  remember at one time I tried to set up a static IP but don't know if I was really successful at doing that.  I made extensive use of the website portforward.com, but the guide for the belkin model I have does not look like my router screen. (Perhaps different firmware?) Plus, as someone who is computer-capable, but networking-challenged, it is very frustrating that every guide and tutorial I've found just simply says do x,y, and z on your router, but technically don't I have 2 routers?  The DSL modem and the wireless router?  That can't be uncommon.  Which do I need to port forward on?  Both? Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated, since I've already given up many-many hours that I'll never get back trying to solve this.

[Stu Redman]

We can't help you witout further information, except if somebody should have the same hardware combination. How is your combination set up ? Does your modem have an own local IP, and is so doing network adress translation too ? Then you have to forward the ports in the modem to the router, and in the router to the desktop, as you suspected.

[n4mddissent]

Well, like most things today, it pretty much sets itself up- just plug and go.  Like I said, I am pretty capable with computers, a DIY sort of guy, but just haven't had much experience with networks.  I believe I originally had a dynamic IP through my isp, but followed some steps on portforward to make it a static IP, but I'm not sure if it worked correctly.

Does your modem have an own local IP, and is so doing network adress translation too ?

I think so, but how could I tell for sure?  I can access both routers through my browser and there's lots of potentially useful information there, but I'm not sure what is important.  For instance, on my modem screen I have an IP address,  a WAN IP address, a MAC address, a Gateway IP address, Primary and Secondary DNS. 

My wireless router screen has a LAN MAC listed, a subnet mask, and an IP address under the heading  LAN settings. 

Under internet settings it has a WAN MAC, Subnet Mask, WAN IP, Default Gateway, DNS address, and says my connection type is static. 

Finally, it has a  heading WLAN settings and gives a WLAN MAC, Wireless Mode, Wireless Channel (auto), and an SSID.

The DSL modem is provided by my ISP.  The wireless router is my own.

Is any of this information helpful or would information that is helpful be contained here?   I'm really in uncertain waters here.  I did some research and got some of the basics down, but that's been almost a year ago and this is not something I utilize on any regular basis, so most of it has slipped away.

I think I was ok on the simple diagrams (just using my modem), but the wireless router has added a new level of complexity.  I'm not sure about the interaction between the DSL modem and the wireless router and how all the addresses and gateways work and what purpose they serve. 

[Stu Redman]

Please post in detail your modem screen, and from your router lan settings and internet settins. Also check if there is some disabled checkbox "expert settings", and see if you find anything about "port forwarding".

[skolnick]

OK, I'll try to help here. If I understand right, you have this combination:

Internet<--->Motorola<--->Belkin<--->Computers

Now, you're right. You need port forwarding. I have some questions:
- What's the IP on the internet side of the motorola? (if it's NOT 10.x.y.z, or 172.[16 to 31].x.y, or 192.168.x.y then it's OK, and no need to post it).
- Does your motorola do NAT? (if the IP on the belkin side of the motorola is 10.x.y.z, or 172.[16 to 31].x.y, or 192.168.x.y then it does).
- What are the IP addresses used by your computers? (they should be 10.x.y.z, or 172.[16 to 31].x.y, or 192.168.x.y, else your belkin is not NATting).

Please post the answers to help you better.

Regards.

[n4mddissent]

The modem page has an IP with 192.168.1.xxx listed.  The IP address on the Belkin page under LAN settings is 192.168.2.x   Both the modem and the Belkin have NAT options with choices of pre-defined and custom services.  I would put up a screenshot of the Belkin screen, but it has a lot of information on it and I want to minimize risk.  What information should I not leave public? (All the information in the previous post is listed on the Belkin default homepage)  My computer's IP is 192.168.2.xxx

Does this help?

[n4mddissent]

Ok, taking the information that was given previously, I went into the NAT settings on my modem.  Prior to that I already had 3 ports (4662, 4672, and 4665) set up in the Virtual Server section of the Belkin Router.  The first set as TCP, the latter two as UDP.  Each has two sections to enter information, one heading is "Inbound Port", the other is "Private Port".  I just entered the same values in both fields for each port.  It also has a section for "Private IP address" and my computer's IP address is listed here. 

On the Modem, under NAT I was able to list those same 3 ports (4662, 4672, and 4665) and there were two fields for each one, a "port range" and a "base port"  I entered the the previously stated values the same in both fields for each port.  Upon trying to activate the configuration on my modem, it asked for the host device and gave an IP address or had an option to specify an IP address.  The default host device IP address it gave, I noticed was the Wan IP address listed on the Belkin.

I am a bit uncertain about entering the same values under Private Port and Inbound Port on the Belkin and then Port Range and base Port on the Modem.  I have screenshots of this information since it may be a little confusing how I described it.  Is it possible to upload an image here or do I need an image hosting service and then link from it?

[skolnick]

OK, so your modem and your router have IPs starting with 192.168. that means both are doing NAT. Therefore, you should do the following:

- In the modem, forward the 3 aMule ports to the WAN IP of your router (it should be 192.168.1.x since that is the LAN IP segment used by your modem).
- In the router, forward the same 3 ports to your computer. Using the same inbound and outbound ports is OK, no problem there.

That should do the trick. However, doing this double-NAT is not recommended. I would either replace the router with a simple switch or configure the modem to assing the real public IP to the WAN interface of the belkin.

Regards.

[n4mddissent]

I believe I have done this like you said, but when I tried amule it gave me the low ID warning again.

Here is a screenshot of the Belkin Router NAT setup


Here are two shots of the modem NAT





The address under host device in the last pic is the Wan IP of the router.

configure the modem to assing the real public IP to the WAN interface of the belkin.

This sounds promising, unfortunately I have no idea what it means.   

[n4mddissent]

I'm still searching for solutions.  I noticed there is an option in amule concerning UPnP and my Belkin router says UPnP enabled on one screen.  Is that a possible solution?  I don't know anything about it.

[skolnick]

OK, here's a quick test: if you disconnect the belkin router, and connect your PC directly to the modem assigning it the same IP as the belking has (192.168.1.136) does aMule get highID? if so, then your modem is properly configured and the issue is in the belkin. If not, then the issue is in your modem. Also, I assume you opened the amule ports in your PC's firewall (if any, even windows firewall).

Regards.

[n4mddissent]

Firewall is not a problem.  I turn my firewall off completely before I test amule each time.  Just wanting to eliminate variables.  Once I get it to working I'll adjust my firewall settings so I can leave it up.  I do have antivirus that scans all incoming data.  In the p2p section of my antivirus it lists emule as one program it scans incoming data for (no amule, thought).  I wouldnt' think that scanning would interfere with anything, but wanted to mention it. 

It might take me a minute to disconnect and reconnect directly to the modem, but I want to make sure I'm doing it right (I only want to dive into the wires once).  You want me to connect my pc directly to the dsl modem.  then I should set my computer's IP address to what the Belkin's IP address was before.  Then test amule.  Is this correct?

Btw, is a static IP required from my ISP?  If so, how do I know if I have one?

[GonoszTopi]

You want me to connect my pc directly to the dsl modem.  then I should set my computer's IP address to what the Belkin's IP address was before.  Then test amule.  Is this correct?

Yes.

Btw, is a static IP required from my ISP?

No.

[Stu Redman]

n4mddissent, in the last screen you posted at the bottom change the adress to the adress of your router which is probably 192.168.2.0 or 192.168.2.1 .
If this doesn't work, follow skolnicks advice.