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[terry]

Hi

I am not sure if I post here or linux section.

When I use amule I only can connect one server in many server list.
If I try "connect to server" manualy in "Servers",
that make exist connected server to disconnected server.
So, there is only one server in connected server.

I think that isn't nomal, am I right?

If I am right,
What do I do check? or how to set?

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I am using gentoo linux

[Jacobo221]

YES it is normall.
Servers are inter-connected to each other, so you only connect to ONE server. Any petition you do to that server will be redirected to all other servers, so you'll get the information from all servers without having to actually connect to each of them :-)
Isn't that great?
Greetings!

[terry]

Oh that's normall.

Yes, as you said, that is great :-)

(When I use other dunkey client, I am just wonder, why they can't share info, so make I should try keep connect more server.)

Thanks,

[stefanero]

huh?

what other donkey client can connect to more then one server?? if you know one please let me know I am intrested.

and btw connecting to more then one server would not make a lot of sence...
since you need servers to search, but there is an option "global search" which again searches with EVERY server, so even more then 2

2nd you need server in the beginning to find sources. ok with 2 servers you would know from start more servers, but since the clinets exchange sources inbeetween each other its just a matter of minutes if not seconds you would be faster with 2servers.

so which client was that?

stefanero

[terry]

Originally posted by stefanero
huh?

what other donkey client can connect to more then one server?? if you know one please let me know I am intrested.

I  only know mldonkey, not others (I only use linux for desktop system)
In mldonkey that contact many server at same time,
and have setting how many server want to contact.
In mldonkey I can contact about 30 ~ 40 server, after passing time
conecting server number to go setiing number or  a little less.

(before install aMule, I used to mldonkey for long time,
after dicide to using UTF-8 system, mldonkey desn't support well.
so I  looking for which client well support UTF-8, and now I know aMule is best for UTF-8

and btw connecting to more then one server would not make a lot of sence...
since you need servers to search, but there is an option "global search" which again searches with EVERY server, so even more then 2

I use global search in aMule. I  thought there that server doesnt share info, because
In mldonkey, I felt,  serch result is almost same when I contact more less server,
but provide source member is less than more server contact, I am not sure that,

2nd you need server in the beginning to find sources. ok with 2 servers you would know from start more servers, but since the clinets exchange sources inbeetween each other its just a matter of minutes if not seconds you would be faster with 2servers.

so which client was that?

stefanero

as I said I uesed to mldonkey, and sometime use mldonkey with sancho.
(I am not sure, may I use  mldonkey about 2 years)

[stefanero]

ok did not know mldonkey could do it....

but like I said its not really needed. since for getting sources for your files its no problem since e/a Mule exchange sourcer among each other...not with mldonkey but tahts another story.

and teh 2nd thing for seach, if you do a local search in aMule its just a search with the users on taht server. and if you do a global search it get search over all servers in your server.met.

but if you are already connected to a big server like razorback2, then of course you will not see a lot of differecne.
but if you are connected to a little tiny server you will notice.

stefanero

PS. btw for all this to work good you need a HighID, indicated by the little earth buttom right corner. if its green highID if its yellow lowID.

[terry]

Thanks all  

[Jacobo221]

stefanero:
yes it does. i will always wonder why :-/
lokks like a way to make ppl believe it improves the downloads heh. There's a spanish expression to call that kind of things, in english it would be something like "dummies-lying"

[lionel77]

Originally posted by terry
I  only know mldonkey, not others (I only use linux for desktop system)
In mldonkey that contact many server at same time,
and have setting how many server want to contact.
In mldonkey I can contact about 30 ~ 40 server, after passing time
conecting server number to go setiing number or  a little less.

iirc the max number of connected servers is hardcoded to 5 in mldonkey, so you can't connect to 30-40 servers at the same time.
mldonkey also has a server walking feature that disconnects from a currently connected server and connects to a new one every x (default imho 6) hours. never did much systematic experimenting with this, so i don't know whether it really does improve finding of sources. intuitively i would think it doesn't help that much for ordinary files but it probably does for rare files.

btw stefanero, mldonkey *does* support emule source exchange and it does so pretty much since this was implemented in emule...

[Jacobo221]

"intuitively i would think it doesn't help that much for ordinary files but it probably does for rare files." <- false. servers are already interconnected to each other, so they provide you with the other server's sources already. Disconnecting and connecting to another server has the only purpose of making you think it improves something, but th only thing it does is
a) disconnect you from the server (since you are connected to 5 at the same time this is o problem, but if you are conected to only one, you temporaryly will get no sources
b) make you LOOSE bandwidth (little) while disconnecting/connnecting to servers.
so, it use useless. IMHO, mldonkey developers didn't really usderstand the protocol when they added such feature hehee
Greetings!

[lionel77]

hmm... based on your logic in terms of sources i'm getting it shouldn't make a difference whether i connect to razorback or some server with 120 users, since they exchange sources anyway, right? well, im not sure if that matches my personal experience...

anyway, i'm not very invested in this, but if i were you i would be a little bit more modest about commenting on other developer's competence...
particularly when it comes to protocol issues i do think mldonkey devs are pretty knowledgeable, e.g. it was them to first reverse-engineer the overnet protocol...

[Jacobo221]

a) you took me wrong. i didn't say they were bad developers. I'm not the one to claim such. Ask eMule devs about how good they are
b) I just said that connection to more than one server in the ed2k protocol is not usefull _at all_. in other words, it is _useless_.
c) your experience tells you it is better to connecto to a big server because when seraching on local (which is the default search), it will only serach on the server you are connected too, so, you'll start the download with veryfew sources, but that will change in less than 10 minutes. Also, if you search on global and you are connected to a little server, results will not comee as fast as if you are connected to a bug server, because those results must first go to the server you are requesting to and then to you.

Don't take me wrong, and please don't put in my mouth words i didn't say

Greetings!

[Kry]

Jacobo221, sorry but you're wrong. Each server doesn't know about other server's sources at all.

The way you get sources from other servers is find_sources UDP packets to other servers in your list than the one you're connected to.

About mldonkey: they have their high spots, and they have their weak spots. I usually see some of their decisions as harmful to the network in general, and connecting to several servers is a very good example.

If servers could know if a client is connected to other servers, you can be sure they would not be doing it.  The only reason they do it is because they cannot be stopped from doing it, not caring much about the network.

[Jacobo221]

ok, sorry lionel77. I have had wrong coneption for years I can see xD
Greetings!