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phishfly

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Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« on: August 26, 2005, 12:32:39 PM »

Im on a mac - and i am using a router but i forwarded neccissary ports.  It says i have a very high id so that is good.  I have 21 sources on this one download and its bar is dark blue.  However it goes 5 - 7 kb/s.  I have a 250 kb/s internet connection (gigabite lan).  Can someone help me out here and tell me how to make it work?

Edit:  And i was downloading from razorback 2-is that a problem?

Thanks.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 01:34:02 PM »

It's ok.  21 sources is very few number, you must be downloading rare file. Read wiki about "my amule is slow".
There's no such thing "very high id" - it's either "hight" or "low".
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 02:47:33 PM »

okay i didn't know that was a low number of peers-thanks.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005, 05:17:24 PM »

Are you running panther or tiger on your Mac?
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005, 08:58:48 PM »

im running on tiger... and the speed on amule is still terrible.  As i stated before i have a high id and i have a fast internet connection, and i am download files with 200 peers on it and i only get 1 or 2 connections...  I know this might be due to the fact that i am waiting for people to upload to me-but come on if i can't fix this problem does every person only have like 10 kb/s download speeds?.  i have changed my router settings to open up tcp/udp ports 4800 and 4803 and i changed amule to have the same.  are these bad ports?  is it my isp?  in amule my udp port keeps changing to 36303 - but under the tcp port it says that my udp port is 4803.  That is why i opend tcp/udp 4800-4803.

what  am i doing wrong lol
thanks.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2005, 02:39:47 AM »

phishfly, read this wiki page, like lfroen suggested.

You need to be patient.  When you start aMule, you start at the back of the queue of the sources for the files you are downloading.  It takes a while to work your way up to the front of the queue.

Also, once you complete a chunk of a file you will begin uploading it.  Then you will earn credits for the data you upload.  This will help you move up in the queues faster.

So, as time goes on, you will get better download rates.  However, don't expect to get BitTorrent-like speeds.  The ed2k network just doesn't work that way.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2005, 12:43:08 PM »

I have aMule 2.0.3 on Fedora Core 3 and I have the same problem as described by phishply.
I have an high client ID and allow more the get my file, but most of the time on my client the upload average load is about 10-12 kb/s  while the download is seldom more more less.
It usually are about 3-4 KB/s and for large amount of time (mybe 10-20 minutes )  it's value is less than 1 kb/s or 0.
Most of the file I try to download have 200-300 sources, but all are waiting ( non source really available to download ).
I tried with several server , but I used to connect to Razorback 2 (195.245.244.243:4661).

There are some tuning that allow to speed-up the excange process ?

regards, Enzo
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2005, 06:21:17 PM »

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There are some tuning that allow to speed-up the excange process ?

Sure, and they still haven't moved, they're still on the same wiki site that was mentioned SEVERAL TIMES in this thread. And no, asking the same question again will not help.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2005, 08:56:42 AM »

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Most of the file I try to download have 200-300 sources, but all are waiting ( non source really available to download ).

If the sources are busy serving other clients, and aren't ready to serve you yet, what do you expect to happen?  We can't magically reach into the hard drive of the other computer and read the data without his cooperation.  And to get his cooperation, we have to wait patiently until he's ready to serve us.

There's no mystery about this.  If you double-click a file in the downloads list, it will expand to show you the list of sources.  Each source will show your position in the queue.  Probably, many of your sources have long queues and you have to wait your turn.  The reason for this is fairly obvious: you are just one of many people who are also trying to download a file from that source.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2005, 05:20:56 PM »

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Most of the file I try to download have 200-300 sources, but all are waiting ( non source really available to download ).

If the sources are busy serving other clients, and aren't ready to serve you yet, what do you expect to happen?  We can't magically reach into the hard drive of the other computer and read the data without his cooperation.  And to get his cooperation, we have to wait patiently until he's ready to serve us.

There's no mystery about this.  If you double-click a file in the downloads list, it will expand to show you the list of sources.  Each source will show your position in the queue.  Probably, many of your sources have long queues and you have to wait your turn.  The reason for this is fairly obvious: you are just one of many people who are also trying to download a file from that source.

That's ok, BUT my eMule is tring to donwload a huge file ( 800 Mb ) since last week and isn't still terminated.
I see tha same file downloaded faster by a friend emule.
I suspect that the slow speed of my amule download ( upload is faster ) can be related to the adsl line which seems to hang or broke randomly when amule is working.
So when the adsl connection restart I 'm always at the bottom of the queue.
Mybe there are some problem with the adsl modem
I got an ADSL modem DSL-300T, there is oter people using this hw with emule.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2005, 05:41:47 PM »

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There are some tuning that allow to speed-up the excange process ?

Sure, and they still haven't moved, they're still on the same wiki site that was mentioned SEVERAL TIMES in this thread. And no, asking the same question again will not help.

 :baby: try to consider I have already read the online info of wiki
 :]  try also to consider that I got some sort of connection problem not covered inside that info , or at least, which I haven't clearly detect.
 8o try also to immagine that I make general question to start a polite discussion on a possible problem which can involve also the socket in time_wait state, or some modem failure or some  failure with isp provider.
 :D this is possible only with polite behaviour , didn't agree  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ?

More on that thread is written inside a replay to the polite ken note  8o
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2005, 06:17:23 PM »

What's your providers name? (Do you know the backbone?)
Do you have any router or just the D-Link?
What are your settings for max. connections, hardlimit and max. connections per 5s?

BTW: Sometimes is no answer the best answer.
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2005, 06:47:26 PM »

earlati:
The point is that this question is asked over and over and over again. It is asked so often that people got tired of giving the same answers every time and put up a wiki page about this. And if people keep asking the same question even after being pointed towards the wiki page this can really piss me off after the 20th time ;)

And if you read the wiki and want to talk about the topic more in-depth that's fine with me. But then please SAY that you read it (sorry, but after some time of any form of IT support you always start to assume the worst. The sad thing is that you are right with this assumption in 90% of all cases...)

About the file:
You can't really compare two "real life" mules with each other. There are dozens of factors that play a role here. How is the upload speed of these two? How is the upload priority for that file (credit building)? How many credits do these two mules have with the clients that have the file? Hardware crashes also play a role, if your mule doesn't come up again fast enough you start your waiting over. I could continue endlessly here (or at least long enough to exhaust the batteries of my keyboard ;) )
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Re: Amule is slow-but i did everything i needed to.
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2005, 07:06:13 PM »

earlati, the most likely reason that aMule would cause your ADSL line to crash or break is the number of connections, or the number of new connections per 5 seconds.  Of course, both of those are in the wiki page, but I still feel the need to ask: have you tried lowering those values?
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2005, 10:23:13 PM »

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earlati, the most likely reason that aMule would cause your ADSL line to crash or break is the number of connections, or the number of new connections per 5 seconds.  Of course, both of those are in the wiki page, but I still feel the need to ask: have you tried lowering those values?

At the moment I have this configuration:
hard_limit=40
max_connection=30
slot allocation = 4
Upload limit = 14 kb/s
Download limit = 0

I read somewhere, mybe on wiki pages or on another forum, that some modem are likely to crash after 80 connections.
One curios think that occur is that also when I receive a phone call the adsl crash , or at least the connection hang ( the ping fail ) for the time of the phone call.
I already contacted the italian provider (Libero/Wind) for such problem and I'm waiting for a reply.

What I think is that a simple call, or other traffic load inside the adsl shoild freeze the connection, and led the amule to lose their priority inside the queue.
Now I have an adsl contract flat ( I payed a fixed amount montly ) , In the past when I have , with the same provider, an adsl contract which I payed base on connection time, and I didn't remember a problem like this.
One possible cause of this should be the filter to separate the voice from data signal.
I haven't this filter, because I didn't require it, at least the noise inside the voice signal doesn't matter, but I think to suspect that also the voice signal should disturb the data signal.
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