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Title: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Lobo on July 17, 2005, 11:03:09 PM
Newly added files does not find any sources, I have to restart the program for it to start finding sources, tryed to stop/start the dowload but it didn't work.

Anyone has the same problem? Bug?


Tnx,

Lobo
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on July 18, 2005, 01:04:52 AM
Have you tried to wait a bit? The time between requests is 5 minutes, and the new file will be added to the back of the queue, so it might take a little while before a request gets sent for that specific file.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Lobo on July 18, 2005, 01:52:35 AM
24 hours is enough for you? ;)


Yeah I'm pretty sure that amule will never start the download if I don't restart it...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on July 18, 2005, 11:58:10 AM
Yes, I'll look into it. ;)
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: stefanero on July 18, 2005, 12:16:49 PM
btw how you added the file?
via ed2k link or search? or does this happen either way?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 18, 2005, 04:10:27 PM
Quote
   

btw how you added the file?
via ed2k link or search? or does this happen either way?

Hi people, same prob over here.

It seems to happen only when adding ed2k links manually,, it works just fine when you add a file via a search.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 18, 2005, 04:28:31 PM
BTW what im sure of is that if i close amule and restart it, the files will get sources just fine (this is what i've been doing to get them to download).
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on July 18, 2005, 11:04:14 PM
Which versions are aMule are you using?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 18, 2005, 11:48:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Xaignar
Which versions are aMule are you using?

aMule 2.0.3 using wxGTK1 v2.6.1 (OS: Linux)

Im on debian Sarge, i compiled wxGTK and aMule by hand following the wiki instructions.

And i would like to add that i've been doing some testing and now i'm not so sure that the files added via a search do find sources, to be honest i think that some work and some do not...  8o

I'll keep on testing, let me know if there is something you want me to try.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: a-snu on July 19, 2005, 12:35:33 AM
yeah me too noticed this behaviour, but simply reconnecting to another server does the trick
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 20, 2005, 12:04:46 AM
Quote
Originally posted by a-snu
yeah me too noticed this behaviour, but simply reconnecting to another server does the trick

Doesnt work for me dude,, i tried disconecting and conecting to no avail, same thing if i double click on a server on the servers list, no matter what i do the files still dont get no sources.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on July 20, 2005, 02:09:06 AM
By any chance, could you try to build a CVS snapshot? I just can't reproduce it locally, and I'd like to know if it's just me or if this is not an issue on current CVS.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 20, 2005, 07:32:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Xaignar
By any chance, could you try to build a CVS snapshot? I just can't reproduce it locally, and I'd like to know if it's just me or if this is not an issue on current CVS.

No problem, will do as soon as i get home (at work at the moment  ;( )
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: a-snu on July 20, 2005, 12:59:20 PM
mmm how many max connections have you got?
try adding 10/15 more
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 20, 2005, 08:03:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by a-snu
mmm how many max connections have you got?
try adding 10/15 more

Ive got 600, ive increased it to 650 to see how it goes, and im compiling latest CVS right now, will post results soon.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Lobo on July 20, 2005, 08:25:20 PM
For me reconnecting to another server does the trick. But in the version 2.0.1 I didn't have this problem...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on July 20, 2005, 08:48:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Lobo
For me reconnecting to another server does the trick. But in the version 2.0.1 I didn't have this problem...

Ok, so 2.0.1 worked. Do you know if it worked in 2.0.2 or was it there it first broke?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: a-snu on July 21, 2005, 02:25:49 PM
well, 600 connections are a lot, try lowering instead [i got 450 connections opened with 2Mbit/512kbit]
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: stefanero on July 21, 2005, 03:36:11 PM
/me runs 2000

it all depends on your modem/router...but linux does not care really ;)
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 21, 2005, 04:24:17 PM
Hi again,

I tried CVS 20050720 and the problem is still there, i added a file via a ed2k link last night and now (more than 14 hours later) still got no sources at all (0/0).

And also, ive noticed a few glitches in this CVS:

1.- If i add a file im already donwloading or that i already have, amule doesnt mention it as it used to, im talking about that message  you could see on the botton left side of amule or in the amule log at the severs tab: "You already have the file..." or "You are already trying to download the file..." (or s/t similar).  Now it doesnt do/say anything and seems like the 'add ed2k link' function doesnt work (same thing if i click on a link in firefox).

2.- I wanted to try to connect to another server and see if that fixed the sources problem in this CVS, so I clicked on 'Disconnect' and then on 'Connect' but the button doesnt do anything, it wouldn't try to connect again or do anything at all, the only way i could connect again to a server was by double clicking on one on the servers list ... and ... back to the no sources problem now ... changing server did get sources for my manually added files this time!! (let me remid you 2.0.3 didnt use to do that for me)...

So after all the hassle at least ive seen some improvements to my situation :-P .

Edit: BTW the increase of connections from 600 to 650 didnt do  anything.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: hmo on July 22, 2005, 01:36:20 PM
Glad I'm not the only one with the problem. I do not use ed2k links, so I also get the problem using the normal search facility. (Almost?) all new downloads don't get off the ground until aMule is restarted.
Sorry I can't be more specific, I haven't really made enough observations or seen any pattern to say much more. Last version I've been using was rc7 or something similarily old, so that doesn't help much either.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: a-snu on July 22, 2005, 04:10:21 PM
Well, in Windows, i got 800 max connections and everything works fine. In linux i noticed that all those connections were useless [with my provider], getting that value around 400/450 keeps my amule really stable and reactive; with 800 connections my download/upload suck [really few clients on queue and a lot of bandwidth wasted ... check overhead]

i don't know if some conf's settings are involved [ie: iptables, private-ip]
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: feralertx on July 23, 2005, 09:31:38 AM
Quote
Originally posted by feralertx
 changing server did get sources for my manually added files this time!! (let me remid you 2.0.3 didnt use to do that for me)...
.

Im afraid this is not entirely true for what ive seen lately. Im sure it did work once, but i added files afterwards and the change of server didnt do the trick, this is so weird, things sometimes work and sometimes dont!  :(
Title: Binaries for Debian Sarge
Post by: Anne Onyme on July 23, 2005, 11:07:12 AM
Hi,

I'm using Debian Sarge myself and binaries from here :

deb http://dude.gemil.de/ debian/

It works for me.

Maybe you can try those .deb

Or you can also download them from the ed2k network :

ed2k://|file|aMule-2.0.3-Monolithique+daemon-Debian_Sarge-Pack_with_wxGTK-2.6.1-i386.deb.tar|5632000|E37C5266D74ED45D4B817A3C513AC438|/

Regards
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: dastan on July 27, 2005, 01:40:26 AM
I can confirm this bug. Im also using Debian Sarge and Binaries from http://dude.gemil.de/ debian/. (aMule 2.0.3).
When adding new Files from the search window aMule doesn't try to find sources for it.
If i connect to another server however it starts downloading.
I guess it only searches for peers on the connected Server and not on the other servers in the list. Maybe someone could try to confirm this.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: thedude0001 on July 27, 2005, 06:06:45 AM
Same question for you, dastan, how long did you wait? Depending on the number of downloads it might take some time for amule to get sources from the server it is currently connected to...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: stefanero on July 27, 2005, 07:07:36 AM
als for testing purpose see if it does any difference if you change the priority of the file to -->  high
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: dastan on July 27, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
I have waited for at least 3 hours. It didnt find any sources (and there were many).
Setting the priortity to high doesn't change anything. It gets set to high automatically when i start the download anyways.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: stefanero on July 27, 2005, 08:44:45 PM
there is a difference in "auto prio" and manuall, but ok thnx for infoi
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: hmo on July 28, 2005, 12:07:41 AM
OK, after some more observations I'm pretty sure that only specific files cause this behaviour, some other downloads work fine from the get go.

This seems to be reproducible here: I added the file "(c) - not allowed in here" to my downloads. In the search it had 58 complete sources (I did verify it again using the stated ed2k URL, so both search and ed2k has the same problem). After 6 hours on priority high it still had not found a single source.

The system had about 100 open TCP connection at that time, so this should not be a limiting factor.

A change of server did not help.

After restarting aMule it found 8 sources within 10 seconds, download started within a minute.

I hope somebody can reproduce it using above URL.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: deltaHF on July 28, 2005, 12:47:19 AM
hey, we'r working on it. be patient ;)

ps. hmo, i've added it - amule found some srcs. it seems ISP related.. somehow.
Title: No sources untill restart
Post by: Ginux on July 31, 2005, 03:54:15 AM
Hello guys,

I noticed this  aswell, today I tried to d/l some files via ed2k and the search feature, I waited over 14h'rs, it only worked when I restarted aMule.

"aMule 2.0.3 using wxGTK2 v2.6.0 (Unicoded) (OS: Linus)" FC4 to be precise.

I tried increasing my connection limit to 3000, but that didn't work.

I'm connecting from France and my ISP is wanadoo.

Keep up the good work guys  :)

Cheers
Ginux
Title: same here
Post by: wonderworld on September 30, 2005, 03:11:27 PM
Debian, latest version, added files from search window.
No sources in about 20 hours.

Greetings
wonder
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: skolnick on October 01, 2005, 06:30:40 PM
I have noticed the same behavior. Very annoying. Happens using either linux or solaris, so is not OS related. Both using wx2.6.1 unicode.

Regards.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on October 01, 2005, 10:16:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skolnick
I have noticed the same behavior. Very annoying. Happens using either linux or solaris, so is not OS related. Both using wx2.6.1 unicode.

Regards.

A while back, somebody suggested that removing bad servers resolved the issue. Could you try disabling auto-adding of servers from clients and reduce your server list to only contain servers you know work and see what happens?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Arichy on October 02, 2005, 03:46:42 PM
Have only Donkey, Sonny Boy and Big Bang servers in server list and no list update features.
That does not help.

But changing server can help, but it does only sometimes.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Kry on October 02, 2005, 05:39:17 PM
Sonny Boy and Big Bang are fake RIAA servers...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: lionel77 on October 02, 2005, 06:05:45 PM
The Sonny Boy ones yes, but the Big Bang ones are imho not fake servers.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Arichy on October 02, 2005, 07:12:19 PM
Fake RIAA servers? Thanks, for the hint.

1. That could well be, because the failure has become recent for me only in the last weeks, and 2.0.3 is significantly older.

2. Then the problem should not be with only KAD enabled.

Is there some good information about fake RIAA and some better servers?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: lionel77 on October 02, 2005, 11:38:52 PM
OK, try the following:

Make sure that the follwing options are deactivated (in Preferences->Server): "Auto-update serverlist at startup", "Update serverlist when connecting to a server" and "Update serverlist when a client connects"

Remove all servers and then add the follwing ones:
Razorback 2: http://ed2k://|server|195.245.244.243|4661|
Donkey Server No1: http://ed2k://|server|62.241.53.2|4242|
Donkey Server No2: http://ed2k://|server|62.241.53.16|4242|

Then let us know if the problem persists or not. :)
Title: RE: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: dfme on October 04, 2005, 06:55:55 PM
i have the exact same problem.

i'm running amuled (2.0.3) and access it via amuleweb...
when adding new files amuled does not search for new sources (even after 24h+)...
but when i restart amuled it gets 300+ sources as soon as it connects with razorback...
any ideas?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Arichy on October 05, 2005, 11:35:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lionel77
OK, try the following:

Make sure that the follwing options are deactivated (in Preferences->Server): "Auto-update serverlist at startup", "Update serverlist when connecting to a server" and "Update serverlist when a client connects"

Remove all servers and then add the follwing ones:
Razorback 2: http://ed2k://|server|195.245.244.243|4661|
Donkey Server No1: http://ed2k://|server|62.241.53.2|4242|
Donkey Server No2: http://ed2k://|server|62.241.53.16|4242|

OK, I did that and additionally loaded the IP filter file http://www.bluetack.co.uk/config/ipfilter.dat

(is there a better one?)

Result:
No more problems for now. Sources are found as normal (takes three minutes or so). Also, if there are only 3 or 6 sources for a file.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: lionel77 on October 05, 2005, 06:26:09 PM
Nice, Arichy . :)
It would be great if you could keep this setup running for a few more days and then report whether you still did not have any issues with sources. This way we could be pretty sure that it is in fact a bad server issue.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Kry on October 06, 2005, 12:56:48 AM
I did always bet on bad servers.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on October 06, 2005, 09:55:22 AM
Kry, the problem with that theory is that we should still be asking the local server for sources. So unless that server is bad as well ...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Kry on October 06, 2005, 05:53:40 PM
... which might be the case...
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on October 07, 2005, 05:46:21 PM
Well, lets ask the obvious question then. Are there anyone who experiences this problem while being connected to RazorBack2?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: dfme on October 07, 2005, 06:14:31 PM
kry is probably right... i've been experiencing the same problem for a couple of weeks now...

so i removed all servers manually and added the following:
ed2k://|server|195.245.244.243|4661|
ed2k://|server|62.241.53.2|4242|
ed2k://|server|62.241.53.16|4242|
ed2k://|server|62.241.53.17|4242|
ed2k://|server|193.138.221.213|4242|
ed2k://|server|193.138.221.214|4242|
ed2k://|server|213.186.60.106|4661|

and i also disabled both of the update serverlist options under preferences > server

presto newly added downloads find sources in minutes....

when thinking about what was different before was that sometimes my client would connect to servers that were called
razorback2.0
razorback2.1
razorback2.2
razorback2.4
and so on...

my wild  guess is that these servers are fake...

i have been a long emule user and i've never experienced this problem b4. i guess the kad network helped out finding the needed sources....
so i guess as soon as the kad feature is implemented in the stable release of amule this problem will go away... :]
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: skolnick on October 07, 2005, 07:04:58 PM
Razorback 2.0 and Razorback 2.1 are genuine servers (In fact, you added the first, since it si ed2k://|server|195.245.244.243|4661|, the 2.1 is ed2k://|server|195.245.244.244|4661|)

Regards.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: amuler on October 09, 2005, 11:08:35 AM
Connecting to another service did not help. But after restarting amuled it immediately fund more sources.

And still I can find much more sources with emule (without KAD)!
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Kry on October 09, 2005, 11:30:06 AM
Did you removed the fake servers from your list as the guy said? And disabled the options he said?
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: dfme on October 09, 2005, 01:14:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skolnick
Razorback 2.0 and Razorback 2.1 are genuine servers (In fact, you added the first, since it si ed2k://|server|195.245.244.243|4661|, the 2.1 is ed2k://|server|195.245.244.244|4661|)

Regards.

didn't notice that :rolleyes:
cheers
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Lobo on October 09, 2005, 10:55:54 PM
I've been using only the servers suggested and looks like the problem is solved by this. This fake server thing is ridiculous! Anyone has a URL to update the server list that exclude fake servers?

tnx,
     Lobo
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: lionel77 on October 10, 2005, 01:47:40 AM
In amule cvs we now use http://www.gruk.org/server.met.gz, that's a pretty decent one imho.
The only downside is that 2.0.3 does not yet handle compressed server.met files, so you need to quit amule and put the extracted server.met yourself in the ~/.aMule folder.
Title: Re: Newly added files does not find any sources!
Post by: Xaignar on October 25, 2005, 03:05:04 PM
A bugfix has been a applied that should fix this problem.  You can either wait for tomorrows snapshot (2005-10-26) or apply this patch:

Code: [Select]
Index: src/Observable.h
===================================================================
--- src/Observable.h (revision 5168)
+++ src/Observable.h (revision 5568)
@@ -273,9 +273,7 @@
  wxMutexLocker lock(m_mutex);
 
  if ( o ) {
- if ( m_list.count( o ) ) {
- o->ReceiveNotification( this, e );
- }
+ o->ReceiveNotification( this, e );
  } else {
  myIteratorType it = m_list.begin();
  for ( ; it != m_list.end(); ) {


Please let me know the results. ;)