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[Xaignar]

Oh, sorry for not being clear on that point. By "the source" I meant the illustration by Tenniel.

[Kry]

Tenniel died in 1914, so is comfortably in the public domain.

[mischamajskij]

Yes it's PD, see also http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Chapter01.jpg

[lfroen]

Tenniel died in 1914, so is comfortably in the public domain.

That's depends for how long EU is going to extend copyrights. Current proposal stands on 95 (sic!) years.

http://techdirt.com/articles/20080716/1214041701.shtml

[Vollstrecker]

1914+95=2009, so next year it is public domain.

[mischamajskij]

That's depends for how long EU is going to extend copyrights. Current proposal stands on 95 (sic!) years.

Mmmh... after all it's about performance copyrights only for now...

1914+95=2009, so next year it is public domain.

I was thinking the same thing, it's just a matter of few months in any case... I'm thrustful! 

[lfroen]

1914+95=2009, so next year it is public domain.

Technically speaking, it's "2010 in public domain" according this "idea". Sorry for trolling

[Kry]

1914+95=2009, so next year it is public domain.

Technically speaking, it's "2010 in public domain" according this "idea". Sorry for trolling

And very bad trolling at that, because if it were 1 year, it would be in public domain in 1915. Same applies for 95 years, so public domain in 2009.

Really, lfroen, trolling it all fun and games 'till someone forgets how to count.

[mischamajskij]

Thanks Kry 

And we're all forgetting that 1) this copyright extension hasn't been approved, yet, and 2) they're only speaking about performance for the moment, which has nothing to do with drawings & co.

[Vollstrecker]

Btw. What happens if the copyright expires, some people start using it, and after that the period get extended? Have they to stop using, or is it still pd because it was used, or are they getting sued becuase it was never pd?

[Stu Redman]

Current law always applies. In 1980 you could perfectly legally buy a switchblade in Germany, but if you still own it, it's a criminal offense now. Even if you never heard they were outlawed.
You won't be sued for using the pic while it was in PD (same as with the switchblade  ), but if you use it a day longer, you're toast.
BtW: if you sell a bundle of old game magazines nowadays and there are still CDs in them you're also toast, because there sure is a CloneCD on one of them which is illegal now. Brave new world. 

[lfroen]

because there sure is a CloneCD on one of them which is illegal now

CloneCD is illegal under what law? AFAIK it's only made-in-USA DMCA introduce such creature as illegal software.

[Stu Redman]

In Germany it's been illegal for several years to bypass a copy protection (software, Audio-CD, DVD)  or to sell a software able to do this. Or to even publish a link to a foreign company's site selling such software. There has been a lawsuite against German computer magazine c't, and c't lost. 
It's still legal to sell DVD-Rom drives which don't fail on copy-protected audio cds, but the feature may not be advertised.