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English => Feature requests => Topic started by: bad-times on November 22, 2006, 10:35:42 AM

Title: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 22, 2006, 10:35:42 AM
today i took my amule offline,
it has been running since v1.0 was realeased on PLF.

i was looking at my stats & log and realised that i was recieving *nothing*,
just being leeched by all the windoze users. :(

looking closer it looks like everybody in the world who uses windoze has downloaded v47c and enabled packet encryption.
i know this has been around a while, but only last week it wasnt much of a problem, only about 10% of clients seemed to be using it - that's changed now. :(
i blame that damned donkeyserver1 for this, they forced people to enable the encryption to use the search function  X(


so my mule-box uptime has come to an end, and i wait for some kind of update.
 ;(
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 22, 2006, 10:39:18 AM
;(
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Fenix-TX on November 22, 2006, 11:20:26 AM
Be patient, developers are working on it
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: wuischke on November 22, 2006, 11:38:02 AM
Enabling package obfuscation just means, that there's the possibility to use PO, but not that there's no connection to non-PO clients. You have to explicitly enable 'connect to obfuscated clients only' if you want/need this.

In other words: eMule 0.47c with enabled PO can connect to normal clients in not obfuscated mode and to 47c-PO-clients in obfuscated mode.
aMule can connect to normal clients and to 47c-PO-clients in not obfuscated mode.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 22, 2006, 12:10:33 PM
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Originally posted by wuischke
Enabling package obfuscation just means, that there's the possibility to use PO, but not that there's no connection to non-PO clients. You have to explicitly enable 'connect to obfuscated clients only' if you want/need this.

In other words: eMule 0.47c with enabled PO can connect to normal clients in not obfuscated mode and to 47c-PO-clients in obfuscated mode.
aMule can connect to normal clients and to 47c-PO-clients in not obfuscated mode.

The problem is that *almost* all of those clients are now running in *just* obfuscated mode rejecting non-obfuscated connections.
In consequence everyone that is not obfuscated cannot get in or get sources.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Vollstrecker on November 22, 2006, 01:16:24 PM
@bad-times: If I understand that correct, the connect to obfuscated clients ONLY. So I would call them a subculture ( not really, because they are many ), and since you are not obfuscated, they can't leech from you.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 22, 2006, 01:54:40 PM
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Originally posted by Vollstrecker
@bad-times: If I understand that correct, the connect to obfuscated clients ONLY. So I would call them a subculture ( not really, because they are many ), and since you are not obfuscated, they can't leech from you.

I have been noticing as well the same problem.
Everyone leaches from me and i cant get anything from them.

I'm putting together a test bed scenario to see if they reject everything non-obfuscated or just uploading to an un-obfuscated client.

Ill keep you posted on the results
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 22, 2006, 03:20:37 PM
i am very greatfull to the dev's,
i know it's free and i have no right to ask for stuff, so i just wait and hope.

i rang a friend and he had 75% clients on 47c - not as bad as me.
it may be the files, he is a films guy but i only download and share emulator stuff - mostly mame.

most emu fans run windows.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 22, 2006, 04:18:27 PM
Ps: If we are having this problem is just because the dev's gave us an alternative in the first place

Thks for all your hard work guys and please save us from uncle bill!
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Kry on November 22, 2006, 05:38:41 PM
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Originally posted by xupetas
The problem is that *almost* all of those clients are now running in *just* obfuscated mode rejecting non-obfuscated connections.

No.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 22, 2006, 07:04:07 PM
maybe the problem is that when i connect my client sends it's "request" list in plain format and they reject it,
but when they search for stuff my client responds openly?
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Kry on November 22, 2006, 07:34:30 PM
Tried kad?
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 22, 2006, 10:53:15 PM
cant download the kad list, and i cant bootstrap without a known good user.

there are no known good users - uploaders = 0
:(
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: wuischke on November 22, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
What's your problem with the kad list?
Try http://nodes.soultcer.net/ for nodes.dat files. Download it (amule shutdown), save it to ~/.aMule/nodes.dat and start aMule.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 23, 2006, 08:32:18 AM
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Originally posted by Kry
Tried kad?

I've run my test and noticed that if the client is running in obfuscated-only-client kad wont work as well.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 23, 2006, 10:04:30 AM
found this.

might help some people.
http://www.adunanza.net/files/downloads/nodes.dat
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Kry on November 23, 2006, 05:11:39 PM
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Originally posted by xupetas
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Originally posted by Kry
Tried kad?

I've run my test and noticed that if the client is running in obfuscated-only-client kad wont work as well.

The number of obfuscated-only clientes is the very most smaller portion of the network you can think about.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 23, 2006, 06:14:25 PM
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Originally posted by Kry
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Originally posted by xupetas
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Originally posted by Kry
Tried kad?

I've run my test and noticed that if the client is running in obfuscated-only-client kad wont work as well.

The number of obfuscated-only clientes is the very most smaller portion of the network you can think about.

Then here he have a different situation. Don't know if i have bad luck with my file sources, or there is a Portuguese plot to make my amule go extremly slow.

 :P
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 24, 2006, 02:53:56 AM
i think it's an israeli plot, it's called the "narus" packet controller :(

the guy who designed this monster should be executed - i hope hesbolla bombs his office/factory  :evil:
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: xupetas on November 24, 2006, 07:26:52 AM
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Originally posted by bad-times
i think it's an israeli plot, it's called the "narus" packet controller :(

the guy who designed this monster should be executed - i hope hesbolla bombs his office/factory  :evil:

I have a worst fate.... get him to use windows daily :evil: i think that that will be punishment enough.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: Kry on November 24, 2006, 07:28:28 AM
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Originally posted by bad-times
i think it's an israeli plot, it's called the "narus" packet controller :(

the guy who designed this monster should be executed - i hope hesbolla bombs his office/factory  :evil:

Crossing the line there... nothing wrong on developing software.
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: nubtumbler on November 26, 2006, 07:39:19 PM
No offense meant here but how is this a development thread?  Feature Requests would be more appropriate.

Edit: Satisfied? ;)
Title: Re: a sad day.
Post by: bad-times on November 27, 2006, 01:04:04 PM
i didnt hijack the thread, i simply borrowed it for a while - i swear!  :D