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English => Feature requests => Topic started by: gaspojo on March 06, 2005, 06:44:14 PM
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I think we really should change units according to this:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
i.e., changing kb, MB and GB to KiB, MiB and GiB
Kernel and coreutils already do this.
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Hum...
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and what about internet time? ... let's make our life harder and harder ... 8o
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The IEC was about 4 decades too late on this one... Everyone knows that 10^3 ~ 2^10, so there's no problem, right? RIGHT???
(AMPS' english translation uses IEC binary prefixes, though :) )
-uberpenguin
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i.e., changing kb, MB and GB to KiB, MiB and GiB
!!! This is one of exelent ways to amuse yourelf when you bored to write code. :)
Are we already agreed about miles vs. kilometers ?
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Did you actually read the link and do you actually know what you're talking about, lfroen?
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Did you actually read the link and do you actually know what you're talking about, lfroen?
Of cause I did. And when I read it, I was really surprized. They said, that it has been since 1998, but as someone that works in telecom, I naver heard about. No customer told me "hey, you marking your devices wrong - it should be GiB instead of GB"
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Weel, that doesn't mean they're right :P
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I know many of the telekom guys, and I am sure they are nearly never right. Thats why they are called "Telekomiker".
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Originally posted by Kry
Weel, that doesn't mean they're right :P
Maybe not, but the situation is a DAMN good deal for storage device manufacturers, who can conveniently "lose" a few GiB off a device because of the difference in 2^30 bytes (GiB) and 10^9 bytes (GB). Conveniently, most OSes don't differentiate so that nice 200GB drive you bought will probably only hold 186 GB (really GiB, but herein is the problem :P )
-uberpenguin
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UBERPENGUIN POSTED!!! PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think it does not hurt to use the proper units.
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Originally posted by Kry
UBERPENGUIN POSTED!!! PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes... Everything you know is a lie and what...
Well nothing much has happened with AMPS lately, so... The posting doesn't happen...
-uberpenguin
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I don't care which units we use. Well, Ok, I do, base 2 all the way baby! But as long as we are consistant in what units we use it doesn't matter all that much.
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But... you guys are missing the point... UBER POSTED!
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Does that mean that earth is comming to an end? :D
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Probably! Lord Kelvin saves us!
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Praise be Cthulhu!
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BTW, I agree to the Men In Black units.
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Sure. As long as we arnt talking Goths ...
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Sorry guys, but I'll end up this discussion with the following statement: Gi, Ki and Mi are no official abbr. for what it stands for: 10^9, 10^3 and 10^6 (G,k and M are). So it will never pass a DIN ;Oþ And no matter what "the leading international organization for worldwide standardization in electrotechnology" reconed out, if there is no german industrial standard, there is no existance too!! So no MiB needed here ;OD
(ok, its a lill bit joking about german standards, but there is also a lill bit truth in it ;O))
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Originally posted by Xaignar
Praise be Cthulhu!
Wasn't it "Praise the Krokodil!"?
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Originally posted by Skuromis
Gi, Ki and Mi are no official abbr. for what it stands for: 10^9, 10^3 and 10^6 (G,k and M are).
You might have misunderstood something. Ki, Mi and Gi prefixes are meant to mean 2^10, 2^20 and 2^30, respectively.
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No, they called it kilobinary with abbr. kibi. But it is an older and still valid standard to abbreviate kilo with k, mega with M and giga with G. k eg means nothing else than 1000 of whatever, 1000 gramm are 1kg. And thousand equals 1*10^3 (qed :D). So, if they call it kilo ~, they should use k ~.
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That's simply amazing how match energy people can put in such useless standartization , followed even more useless discussions.
Just a small example from another area. Do you know that there're still several definitions to the term "mile" ? I know about 3 (three) ! It come even more complicated when comes to speed measurement. How many of you know why speed in US is "mile per hour" (which of three miles btw?), in Europe is kilometer per hour, and on the see it's knots, while 1 knot = nautical mile per hour.
Now tell me, if file size is measured in1024 units, but speed of network in 1000 units, how (in which units) would you like to display "speed in which file is downloaded ?!".
So, while being interesting from theoretical point of view, this discussion have no practical implication.
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Thy shalt measure information in bits. And entropy is information.
This is written in the book. Praise Lord Shannon, successor of Lord Kelvin. Burn in Hell you infidels who do not believe this!
Btw, kilometers were invented to put an end to the miles crap. But english people are so stubborn...
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Originally posted by phoenix
Thy shalt measure information in bits. And entropy is information.
This is written in the book. Praise Lord Shannon, successor of Lord Kelvin. Burn in Hell you infidels who do not believe this!
"Hark," quoth the penguin, "Raise thine eyes and discern the coming of the Ancient One that is prophesied smite the infidels with a burning vengence. BEHOLD! The Third Coming of the KROKODIL is nigh, bringing forth the blessing and the maladiction foretold by the squatty flightless Harbinger of the KROKODIL. Woe be upon the heathens, and rejoice thee, believers!"
Btw, kilometers were invented to put an end to the miles crap. But english people are so stubborn...
We don't want none of your fancy scientificizin' metrics infecting our children and contaminating the minds and hearts of the people!
-uberpenguin
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We should go back to using real standards, like feet and inches, which will also remove the need for carrying a ruler .... except for you misfits whose legs and fingers are the wrong sizes! Damn freaks, the lot of you!