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[Fuxie-DK]

How do I find an installer for Windows??

I need v2.0.0rc7 to be installed in order to test something (with regards to eMule Plus), but it seems for me that there is no Windows version being released...

[thedude0001]

To make it short: There is no windows installer. At the moment we do not have a windows-developer (and nobody is willing to take that task). One user recently tried to compile amule under windows, I'm not too sure if he succeeded, but "windows amule for the masses" is far from being ready. And as there already is emule to take that task other things have a higher priority on the todo list (stable 2.0.0, stable Mac, Kad....).

[Fuxie-DK]

Strange (and sad)...  ;(

I was under the impression that aMule was the only client available for (virtual) all platforms...  

[phoenix]

Fuxie-DK,

aMule has the potential to be in all platforms. But we need a windows developer. I am personally out of this task

Try linux, you won't regret it.
Cheers!

[lfroen]

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aMule has the potential to be in all platforms
You must be joking. It even doesn't compiles clearly "out-of-the box" under windows. Yes, I know, it is not an enormouos effort to set flags/includes/libs etc right but the fact stands.

This is fact that *nix people don't quite understand: under windows you must have installer. There's no alternative. No "compile yourself howto's". Either you have 1-click install or your program will not get to any sane windows box.

And don't get me wrong - this is how the things should be on the linux too.

Continuing on "all platform" - we actually mean "linux and Mac".  World thinks differently - about 90% of home boxes (and amule is home application) running some kind of windows.

Try linux, you won't regret it.

While being linux fun, I would like to correct you: "Go and fix your windows version or remove all_platform_application from the title".

[Kry]

lfroen? is that you or you got possesed by the Spirit Of Bill Gates?


I'd like you to get informed about the project you're working at:


- We compile and run on WAY MORe than linux and Mac. This includes, but is not limited to,  FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, and virtually any platform wxWidgets compiles and runs, which btw, is a f*cking lot of platforms and archs.

- We migh need a windows installer, once we really have a windows version available for the public. Meanwhile, we don't really need more than adding a 'under development' for the windows version, as we do right now.

I'd like specifically you, lfroen, to stop attacking your own project and co-workers, thanks. Is not like we want you to be moderated on forum again, do we?.

Now!

Fuxie-DK: There is no installer now for windows, neither a precompiled windows version og aMule yet, tho we'll have to start working on it soon

[Fuxie-DK]

Originally posted by phoenix
Try linux, you won't regret it.

Actually, I have tried it... Had RedHat for approx 5 months before I removed it..

• Samba never got to work 100% (couldn't connect to shared drives from Windows machines)
• Printer sharingm only worked when printer was connected to Windows-machine and Linux used it, not vice versa
• FAT32-support only supports write-access for root user, and only ReadOnly for all other users
  
• LICQ lost all contacts from time to time, and you should all all you ICQ contacts again and again..
• Linux refused to accept IP and DNS-name from my Win2K DHCP server

This was my "success" with RedHat v8.....

My "success" with Mandrake lasted less than 1 week...

[Xaignar]

The truth is, that while Win32 support is a goal, it has very low priority, since 100% of the developers run either linux, Mac and possible BSD. Personally, I have no intentions of doing any work on win32 support until the time where both core and GUI works (lfroen is working hard on that) since there is so much else that needs doing and windows already have an abundance of monolithic clients, plus a few split ones.

However, anyone who actually wishes to join the team with the intentions of working on win32 support are more than welcome. And yes, if we do a win32 port, then we will need a installer, probably the same for MacOSX. As for linux and bsd, these rely on various package-systems, so the best we can do is to provide for a select few (the most common) and just let the other distros package it themselves.

[lfroen]

lfroen? is that you or you got possesed by the Spirit Of Bill Gates?

You should be, if you're going to write something for windows.
But before you do:
Have you heard word "usability" ? This is something linux developers tend to miss.
Most of windows users never saw command line. Never. They will look for installer. Even for testing version.

This includes, but is not limited to, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, and virtually any platform wxWidgets compiles and runs

AFAIK for amule to compile & run on *BSD you need to patch source code or wx or both. Someone reported it on this forum. This is definitly true for Solaris also (skolnik has reported that).

and virtually any platform wxWidgets compiles and runs

This is pure theoretical statement.

DISCLAIMER: flame war ahead

Someone here explained to me, that FreeBSD is completely different that OpenBSD. While being technically true, this is not so for most of people. Sorry to disappoint you, but most of people know maximum 4 different platforms: windows, linux / unix (most think it's same), mac

[phoenix]

Originally posted by lfroen

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aMule has the potential to be in all platforms
You must be joking.

No, I am not joking. In case you didn't notice, wxWidgets runs under windows too. This is what I mean by "has the potential to".

Originally posted by lfroen
It even doesn't compiles clearly "out-of-the box" under windows. Yes, I know, it is not an enormouos effort to set flags/includes/libs etc right but the fact stands.

No one has made an effort to make it work. I said before and I repeat: I won't do it. This does not change the potential to do it.

Originally posted by lfroen
This is fact that *nix people don't quite understand: under windows you must have installer. There's no alternative. No "compile yourself howto's". Either you have 1-click install or your program will not get to any sane windows box.

And don't get me wrong - this is how the things should be on the linux too.

Nothing could be more false. You are either loosing on generalisation or you never ran DOS without a gui in your life. Although it is desirable to have an installer, it is not necessary in all situations. That doesn't mean that aMule will not need an installer, I am sure it will. For Linux, RPM, DEB, etc. does the trick.

Try linux, you won't regret it.

While being linux fun, I would like to correct you: "Go and fix your windows version or remove all_platform_application from the title".

I think you might be missing your calming pills... But hey, we can change it to a_few_platform_application

Cheers!

[Kry]

Originally posted by lfroen

lfroen? is that you or you got possesed by the Spirit Of Bill Gates?

You should be, if you're going to write something for windows.
But before you do:
Have you heard word "usability" ? This is something linux developers tend to miss.
Most of windows users never saw command line. Never. They will look for installer. Even for testing version.

And, please, point me to the place ANYONE said that there won't be an installer for the windows  version?

Originally posted by lfroen

This includes, but is not limited to, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, and virtually any platform wxWidgets compiles and runs

AFAIK for amule to compile & run on *BSD you need to patch source code or wx or both. Someone reported it on this forum. This is definitly true for Solaris also (skolnik has reported that).

AFAIK you should keep your head out of your part of the code and look around for the integration of the multiplatform patches on the HEAD development, something that seems to bother you so much you ahve to bash about multi-platform at the minimal oportunity you find. Ganael has mailed several times stating no more work needed on sources for BSd, thos he's monitoring every release to make sure it works perfectly. As for skolnick, sometimes issues arise on Solaris, and then they0re addressed and killed again. Maybe, maybe, you should try to have some info about the project you're working at before stating nonsense acusations everywhere.

Originally posted by lfroen

and virtually any platform wxWidgets compiles and runs

This is pure theoretical statement.

'virtually'. And please, once there is no platform-specific code, how can aMule not run on that platforms?

Originally posted by lfroen

DISCLAIMER: flame war ahead

Someone here explained to me, that FreeBSD is completely different that OpenBSD. While being technically true, this is not so for most of people. Sorry to disappoint you, but most of people know maximum 4 different platforms: windows, linux / unix (most think it's same), mac

The ignorance that you love to show, not only in this posts but in several other about multiplatform support, is something that you should not be proud about.

lfroen, you're missing the point on this project I'm afraid. We don't support new platforms/archs/etc because of the market. We don't work for the market. If everyone would think like you, linux would never exist - windows was the only thing people was using anyway, why develop to linux?. We work for the COMUNITY, and for FUN. And if our goal is to support as much platforms as we can, that's what we will do, and there's no need for you coming around bossing everyone about what they should or should not do.


If you have nothing to say that would contribute to the discussion instead of flamming, please stick your tongue up you a** and stfu, please.