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FRAP

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Run-out-of-the-box
« on: March 02, 2005, 07:46:53 PM »
hi folks,
i'm not a linux newbie BUT: its a long time ago that users using Suse could take an rpm from your site and click & go, means not hassling around with different GTK versions..

My input:

- i think the important part for the linux community is to make things EASY to use like bill does!

- look at links2linux.de GREAT JOB! put in your yast as installlation source, klick and win ;)

- why isnt amule on links2linux?

- pleaze simplify installation routine!

Greetz,

Peter
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RE: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005, 08:06:20 PM »
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Originally posted by FRAP
hi folks,
i'm not a linux newbie BUT: its a long time ago that users using Suse could take an rpm from your site and click & go, means not hassling around with different GTK versions..

No idea about the "good old times", I'm not around that long. But if you mean the "uninstall Suses wx*-rpm and install ours": Not our fault, Suse fucked the wx-packages up (as did Mandrake, as did Fedora, as did Debian). I know it doesn't make any difference to the end-user who fucked up, but in this case it wasn't us.

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My input:

- i think the important part for the linux community is to make things EASY to use like bill does!
This is again (IMO) more a fault of the distro. There is a reason why it is called "rpm hell". Take a look at other package managers like apt in debian or portage in gentoo. It's all a simple "apt-get install amule" or "emerge amule".
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- look at links2linux.de GREAT JOB! put in your yast as installlation source, klick and win ;)

- why isnt amule on links2linux?
Because nobody put it in there? Sorry, I don't use any rpm-based distro (had my experience and learned to love the beauty of a real package manager) and saw this page for the first time just now...
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- pleaze simplify installation routine!

Greetz,

Peter

Please don't take my post as any personal offense, I'm just picking at your arguents, not you  ;)
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Re: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2005, 12:05:49 PM »
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- pleaze simplify installation routine!

If you're talking about gui version of amule, there's no "installation routine". You can even copy binary itself provided you have right wx there.

Or, you can just "rpm -i amule-version.rpm" (substitute it with right command for your distro)

How do you see it simplier ? Gui installer exist in each distribution, so this side is irrelevant.

Command line tools like daemon, webserver, amulecmd need more attention - as any other command line tools out there. That's what they made for. IMHO amuleweb will run even without any configuration automatically.
So, it's only daemon and amulecmd - but being command line is their nature :)
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Re: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2005, 02:32:39 PM »
Maybe installation of aMule on Linux is part of the Distros but for Apple and Windows should be a binary file. In best case with an installation routine. Otherwise aMule will only used by some experts or noobs who have to much time like me ;)

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Re: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2005, 02:54:04 PM »
Well, on Mac we provide a 'just click on it and run' binnary the don't even need wx :P
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Re: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2005, 02:55:09 PM »
For MacOS there have been several "snapshot" releases that were a binary and it will be the same for future rc's and "full releases". When there will be a Windows release it will surely be a binary file, too.

Please do not mix releases and rcs with the daily cvs snapshots we provide. The cvs snapshots are for the people who want to live on the bleeding edge of development and test the newest features and are therefor willing to take the adventure of compiling amule themselves. For rcs and releases we have and will always provide .rpms, .debs, .ebuilds and whatever else way of package comes along for as many distros as possible.  :)
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Re: Run-out-of-the-box
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2005, 03:14:19 PM »
Issue of installer on windows already discussed. We will have it after we will have amule on windows working.
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