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Axl_Mas

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An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« on: December 26, 2005, 01:27:19 AM »
Some emules mod developers has make a new project:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/emulep3p

Ants is an anonymous P2P network.....with RIAA and friends that broke our balls it will be the future!!!

Perhaps even amule in the future will support Ants project!  :]
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2005, 03:30:14 AM »
Hum... no
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005, 10:41:34 AM »
I was not able to find any technical info about this. Anyway, I just don't see how p2p network can be "anonymous" ? Either you directly connected with your peers (no anonymity) or you connect thru server (this is not p2p, you know).
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2005, 11:02:03 AM »
The concept must be the same as MUTE and other anon p2p...
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2005, 11:24:17 AM »
lfroen for you : http://sourceforge.net/projects/antsp2p/

and I guess you know what emule is :P
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2005, 01:16:20 PM »
Ok, taking step backwards, and correcting myself. The concept fulgas reffering is known and definitly can be implemented.
However, the reasons behind such design are not clear. The ultimate goal of protecting from "How the RIAA Finds People to Sue" can not be achieved the way those people think.
Their logic (simpified version) going like this: "if client A want file from B, file is being transmitted thru other clients C,D and E. Since C,D and E have no idea what is going on - they are innocent from RIAA point of view". IANAL, but RIAA may not see things this way. Innocent or not - is up to judge to decide. And guess what, event being "client C,D or E" you may get sued for retransmitting file towards A as "accesory to crime". As extreme example, in murder case, if you have sharpened the knife - you will stand to trial, which will define degree of responsibility.
Copyright laws infrigement have no technical solution, sorry to disappoint you. Only legal.

And btw from the technical side - I'm not mentioning enourmous overhead to all transfers such network would impose.
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Re: An idea for the future:aMule and Ants together for anonymous P2P
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2005, 02:07:36 PM »
These things are great, if you are one of the poor chinese guys (not only the evil freaks at amule.org behave not very nice towards them, their government does to) you're happy that you have a possibility to express your goddamn opinion without having to fear that you gotta go into jail or even worse.

But I agree with lfroen that this concept is neither needed nor productive for filesharing.
Many complain about slow speed already - divide your current speed through the number of 'nodes' and you'll get your future speed.
Who would use a system, that is e.g. 5 times slower than ed2k?
If you share legal files (Ever tried? You'll be surprised how fast (fast in terms of ed2k) e.g. OpenOffice for Winwill be downloaded. I had around 70kb/s with nearly no wait time.) there are no advantages and if you do not - ask yourself wheter you really need it and take some care.
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