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Title: Website in danger
Post by: GonoszTopi on August 29, 2008, 11:36:43 PM
- THE SERVER EXPENSES HAVE BEEN COVERED - NO NEED FOR MORE DONATIONS!

- THANKS TO ALL THAT DONATED, AND TO ALL THAT HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR INTENTION TO DONATE BUT COULDN'T MAKE IT IN TIME!

Srsly guys, we love you.


Old post:

Dear users, dear visitors.

An unexpected threat emerged suddenly against the aMule website: we might be unable to pay for the server. This server hosts the forum, bug-tracker, wiki and the download page. In the past we had a generous donor who always covered the missing money, but now - because of some financial problems - he's unable to do so.

To cut the long story short: the new server invoice is due this monday, 1 Sep 2008. The amount is around 370 EUR, and on paypal the current donations are 77,49 EUR, meaning we are just short 300 euro for payment. We can get probably a couple weeks delay in the payment.

So, now, happy users of aMule, we count on you as you used to count on us when requesting bugfixes and new features. Please help keeping the server alive, by donating. Means of donations can be found on the main page (http://www.amule.org/), under the title "Happy with aMule?".

We state here, that all donations will be used for keeping the server alive, and for nothing else.

We count on you.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: OldFrog on August 30, 2008, 01:05:22 AM
Transaction Paypal 1MU86137DV7582646. Hope it helps a bit.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: MidgetInaBikini on August 30, 2008, 08:06:35 AM
i don't see any reason to help you pay for there server.

1. amule is very unstable application, outdated, and just bad.
2. no support for mac,every time you have to comply new version on your own, i have no problem with that, the  only problem is:
i. the developers wont help with problems, so you stay with errors and half of the application wont work.
ii.the wiki is totally useless for mac users with leopard and Intel.


Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: brainnolo on August 30, 2008, 09:47:46 AM
Donated, not a big amount but I hope it helps.

To the people finding excuses for themselves not to donate for an application they are using *and* brag about it: you suck.

Is true, aMule for Mac has a lot of problems, is very slow, ugly and the devs do not even want to consider an UI redesign (apparently all is needed to make it nice is shiny icons for them). This does not change the fact that I am using the application.

However, I would really like to know where they are hosting this! 377€/year sounds like a lot to me. The guy who suggested sourceforge has indeed a point and there are also a lot of stable but cheaper ISP (assuming we are talking about a VPS).
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: Underpass on August 30, 2008, 10:03:04 AM
I'm a happy Linux user and I sent you some money.

Bye :)

P.S. 4TP4393160653360C
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: wuischke on August 30, 2008, 10:05:17 AM
A simple question to these Mac users complaining about missing builds:

Would you pay 10€ for working Mac OS X binaries?

This would be perfectly legal with the GPL and a means to help to pay for the server. I don't trust the target group, though.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: theojk on August 30, 2008, 11:05:29 AM
Just donated some euros. I hope you get enough to continue.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: daemonium on August 30, 2008, 11:18:31 AM
Es hora de devolver un poco de lo que tomamos y mostrar así nuestro apoyo y gratitud. Ahí mi granito de arena 3YR6750644774761G.
Estaría bien poner un pequeño banner con la cantidad faltante , quizá si vemos lo que falta alguien mas se vaya animando.
Gracias por aMule.
NeiL.

Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: kornell on August 30, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
"Non ho potuto fare di più, ma spero che il mio "piccolissimo" contributo possa essere d'aiuto".

Transaction ID = 2KB41325BW819000M

Thank you aMule team ;)

Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: MidgetInaBikini on August 30, 2008, 01:27:25 PM
A simple question to these Mac users complaining about missing builds:

Would you pay 10€ for working Mac OS X binaries?

This would be perfectly legal with the GPL and a means to help to pay for the server. I don't trust the target group, though.

Yes, build good application with good support and i'll pay 10€. but for now, you don't offer any support and create crappy application.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: lfroen on August 30, 2008, 03:24:43 PM
A simple question to these Mac users complaining about missing builds:

Would you pay 10€ for working Mac OS X binaries?

This would be perfectly legal with the GPL and a means to help to pay for the server. I don't trust the target group, though.

Yes, build good application with good support and i'll pay 10€. but for now, you don't offer any support and create crappy application.

Suggestion to sell binaries is OK by itself. Those who think it's "crappy application" will just skip it; so problem solved. Not sure how feasible the idea is - how do we process payments? Building e-commerce site?

BTW, support for $15 application? Really? On what planet would that be? The best thing you get for $15 is "FAQ" section on company website. Support would cost an order of magnitude expensive.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: kreegee on August 30, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
To the people finding excuses for themselves not to donate for an application they are using *and* brag about it: you suck.

Is true, aMule for Mac has a lot of problems, is very slow, ugly and the devs do not even want to consider an UI redesign (apparently all is needed to make it nice is shiny icons for them). This does not change the fact that I am using the application.

*sign* - if you don't like the app, improve it, or stop using it and quit whining. you're pathetic.
Title: Thanks for your work
Post by: porkoteixo on August 30, 2008, 06:07:45 PM
I been using amule for years. I had up/downloaded a lot of GB's with this program. I saw his evolution since ¿Xmule? . My family usually connect to my amule web server to make his searchs and downloads with my cable connection. I'm really happy with amule and his evolution. Thanks for your work: --> 4B360547UM612174W

PD: Sorry with my english; I'm galician.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: miltiad on August 30, 2008, 06:16:30 PM
Considered Launchpad ?
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: menos_16 on August 30, 2008, 09:06:21 PM
Thanks for your work:
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Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: Kry on August 30, 2008, 09:59:50 PM
As of right now, the paypal amount is €279,55 EUR. 100 more euros and it'll be covered.

Big Thanks to every single one of you that donated - the big ones and the small ones. If anyone wants to be in a donors list, go ahead and we can revive that section fo the website, which has been gone for a while.

To be honest about the server prize, yes, it's expensive, it's hosted on http://www.ngz-server.de/rootserver/rootserver.php and it was chosen a long time ago. So far it's been reliable and the expenses had been covered by a single donor whenever we needed payment and there were no enough donations. You can check the prize at the website to see we're not fooling you, and it's a pretty powerful server with a big pipe - which helps us when we're DDOSed, which is more often than you would think.

Having a dedicated server is expenbsive and luxurious, but other services we've had in the past haven't lived up to the needs we had, of configuration, bandwith and other needs. Also good luck finding people wanting to host a server for a p2p project, even if it does no P2P at all.

To those that think the program is crappy/unstable/that we're the scum of the earth and don't want to donate, have a happy life thinking that. It's a DONATION, because noone is forcing you to donate. You don't want to donate, go ahead, but posting here how righteous you are because the application is a piece of shit? That's just childish and pathetic. How old are you, twelve? The application is free - and it will remain free, I don't agree with selling binaries either, it would involve licenses and other stuff that's just annoying. If you don't like a free application, either find a different free application you like or pay for a better one.




Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: Kry on August 30, 2008, 10:11:05 PM
On a unrelated note, we're aware of the Mac problems, most of them caused by wxWidgets, which is our multiplatform layer (and now, we're not going to change the layer, either).

Once we have a developer with enough time and a fast, reliable and usable Mac to work on it, rest assured the program will improve. As it is, the current team is doing what they can to have as much as possible working.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: brainnolo on August 31, 2008, 12:46:42 AM
To be honest about the server prize, yes, it's expensive, it's hosted on http://www.ngz-server.de/rootserver/rootserver.php and it was chosen a long time ago. So far it's been reliable and the expenses had been covered by a single donor whenever we needed payment and there were no enough donations. You can check the prize at the website to see we're not fooling you, and it's a pretty powerful server with a big pipe - which helps us when we're DDOSed, which is more often than you would think.

You could also take a look at hosteurope.de. I do not use them personally, but a friend of mine said it is very stable. Mind you, his site is not as loaded as yours. Anyways what you should seriously consider is sourceforge or something similar. I know it is not as cool as having a dedicated server, but at least you get to keep the donations.

BTW: I am really happy to hear that our donations (small in my case) already covered most of the expenses!
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: judas on August 31, 2008, 12:15:44 PM
Numéro de reçu : 2286004954520415C

Question pourquoi le compte amule est en USD alors qu'il serait plus simple qu'il soit en EUROS comme la location du serveur ??
'sorry i don't know how write this question in english :) '

Long life to amule


Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: littlemauro on August 31, 2008, 12:23:05 PM
I'm a newbie.

I usually work with windows application (emule) but i would like to migrate to linux enviroment in the future.
So even if i never used it i want to preserve it.

0WH92475K9685123U

Not a big one...but hope it will help you.

I'm italian. Sorry for my bad english. ;)
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: ariemer on August 31, 2008, 12:50:32 PM
Hello aMule team,

I am a many years aMule user on Linux. Started using it with SuSE 8 through SuSE 9 an now on Ubuntu 8.04. aMule did a good job for me and I decided to donate you 50 Euros.

But. I don't want to use PayPal nor moneybookers. Could you please post your SWIFT account data somewhere? All EU citizens can donate you money through SWIFT free of charge. And for users from Germany German account data would be helpful.

However. If you don't want to post the account data publicly. Could you please send it to me privately? I promise to donate!

An other point is: I think you would do you and aMule users a great favor if you move the server to a less expensive hoster. I myself have good experience with 1&1 hosting.

Regards
Alex
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: TASADAR-F on August 31, 2008, 02:20:24 PM
Hello

I create today a Paypal . In 5 days I can donate.
I think Amule team should find similar hosting with less price.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: valentinux on August 31, 2008, 03:40:41 PM
Detalles de pago

Id. de transacción:      9W0398456P6611142
Precio del artículo:      $10,00 USD
Total:      $10,00 USD
Descripción del pedido:      aMule Development
Comprador:      Valentinux
Uso amule continuamente, así que no me importa daros una pequeña ayuda. Gracias por amule.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: XabiK on August 31, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
Just registered

03904503SR766174W (5USD donation)

I donate you because I hope to see a stable Mac aMule in a future

Thanks for your work

P.S.: sorry for my english, it's not my native tongue
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: Kry on August 31, 2008, 08:28:42 PM
All covered, and a day early! Thank you guys, and we'll work on getting a cheaper hosting solution that fits our needs. And also on improving aMule so you don't feel your efforts have been in vain.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: kreegee on September 01, 2008, 12:56:39 AM
i thought you have retired?  :P

thx to the donors from a grateful user which didn't donate this time (not that much spare, and donated the last time - when you even had to turn off the forums etc. for 2 or 3 days  :'()
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: amuser on September 01, 2008, 02:42:31 PM
Hi !

I known good free hosting: http://www.000webhost.com/


PS: Need work for Kad (or next step p2p) change all Internet infrastructure to decentralized. Hostings must die.
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: angel on September 06, 2008, 07:31:29 PM
What a shame! i dind know anything of this , perhaps you should have send a mail to all  of us. Thanks a lot for amule!!
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: wuischke on September 06, 2008, 08:40:57 PM
angel: You can still donate, we will use it for our next server payment. Every donation is very appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: guest on September 12, 2008, 08:00:04 PM
Hey you....
how much it costs?
I recommend you to move your content to www.tophost.it (italy)
It costs about 10 euros/year...

It's only an advice...

Bye
Xab
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: feralertx on October 04, 2008, 01:43:58 AM
Dont care if expenses have been covered already...

There goes my donation !

6CY69386U6475472K

Thanks guys and keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: harlock59 on October 22, 2008, 03:59:34 PM
in France, it's also cheap !

www.lws.fr (http://www.lws.fr)
Title: Re: Website in danger
Post by: PAKman on October 22, 2008, 04:28:56 PM
Here is $20.00. Sent via PayPal
Keep up the good work.
Norm
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