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Shall extension icon be added next to filename like azureus does?

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Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« on: May 01, 2007, 07:37:18 PM »

Shall extension icon be added next to filename like azureus does?

Extension icons can be downloaded at
http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/mini/famfamfam_mini_icons.zip
or
http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/famfamfam_silk_icons_v013.zip

Some useful icons were extracted from above and attached below (extIcons.tar.bz2)
« Last Edit: May 01, 2007, 08:39:52 PM by FreeToGo »
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 09:50:40 AM »

I have only 1 question about this feature: "WHY"? You don't know what are you downloading? Moreover, aMule already have icon there - for file rating. Sticking 2 icons one after another is particularly bad idea.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 11:02:35 AM »

Why? I don't know. Somewhat like asking me why Nautilus has thumbnail next to filename or asking why people install Beryl.  Maybe it makes the application look better or maybe simply because we are used to it.

Put it the other way round. Will there be anyone posting a new topic requiring azureus to reduce the amount of fancy artworks and icons so as to make the already very sluggish java application run faster.  If such fanciness doesn't kill a java application, a c++ application should feel very comfortable to accomodate it.


I have only 1 question about this feature: "WHY"? You don't know what are you downloading? Moreover, aMule already have icon there - for file rating. Sticking 2 icons one after another is particularly bad idea.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2007, 06:00:42 PM by FreeToGo »
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 11:34:14 AM »

Put it the other way round. Will there be anyone posting a new topic requiring azureus to reduce the amount of fancy artworks and icons so as to make the already very sluggish java application run faster.  If such fanciness don't kill a java application, a c++ application should feel very comfortable to accomodate it.

I would. That's the reason I don't use Azureus or other bloated apps.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2007, 01:37:07 PM »

It's nice that you attached such image, so now we both can see why it's such bad idea. Can you tell which of icons means type and which "status" (or whatever it means in azureus)? You can't before you look to column headers, which named H and S (WTF that means?!).

People use icons in Gnome and beryl for a reason, and the reason is "usability". This particular icon in this particular place lacks this reason.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2007, 02:27:16 PM »

It could be easily found by streching the column. And columns can be enabled/disabled at the users will. I see no problem in providing this as an option.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 05:05:13 PM »

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I see no problem in providing this as an option
That's where you wrong. "Option" means that you (as a designer) have no idea and passing responsibility to user side.
IMHO: this option add no usability and just clobber interface.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 05:51:29 PM »

People likes nifty stuff. I say the same as ip2country: disabled by default I have no problem with it.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 05:44:31 AM »

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I see no problem in providing this as an option
That's where you wrong. "Option" means that you (as a designer) have no idea and passing responsibility to user side.
IMHO: this option add no usability and just clobber interface.
Well, I personally can recognize the file type much faster by the image than by scrolling a big file name that usually does not fit the column width. Yes, it is more useble in my opinion. And as an option, I mean, the user enables this if he wishes to do so. I still do not see where I am wrong, I even fail to understand how this word even logically applies to my statement.

If this "feature" is disabled, the overhead is minimal, we have much worst cpu intensive options in the preferences box. If the image is in a separate column, the application just looks the same, so, no clobber if you don't want.

I also think that disabled is a good default, it is just another nice feature to have if you want to.

Remember, this section is called "feature requests". And its not like he is asking for webcache.

I'm just waiting for Kry to add one column :)
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 08:18:59 AM »

With a column I like this better. In that case the User can enable and disable it like he wants (a not shown column is like disabled at compiletime). This way the distros don't have to decide for the users.
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 09:46:29 PM »

The only issue I see with this option is that icons should be included by aMule itself, like the flags of IP2C, since you cannot count on GNOME or KDE or "X" window manager being installed (contrary to windows). Which icons would then be used?

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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 04:53:30 PM »

With a column I like this better. In that case the User can enable and disable it like he wants (a not shown column is like disabled at compiletime). This way the distros don't have to decide for the users.
I am waiting for Kry to show me how he wants the column conversion code to keep compatibility with older versions. As soon as he does it, I will put several things on other columns, where they belong, e.g.: flag, country code, country name, part file number, etc.

skolnick,

As for the icons, we would do exactly the same thing as we did with the country flags: convert them to XPM and add them to the code.

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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 10:35:52 PM »

Yep, I really like the idea of adding more columns for everything. That way, things can be hidden or shown according to user's preferences. And I also like the icons being in XPM just like the flags, but which icons would be used? the ones suggested by FreeToGo? (I like them, just curious ;) )

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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2007, 05:11:01 AM »

Well, the icons he suggested could be a start for sure. Any free stuff is candidate, suggestions are welcome.

Cheers!
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Re: Add extension icon next to filename like azureus does
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 11:49:16 AM »

IMHO match more useful is to have such icons on shared files list, and not on downloads.
Also, icons must not be hardcoded, but extracted from shell in run-time.
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