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jifix

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amule is a dead project?
« on: May 18, 2008, 03:14:57 PM »
there has 2 years since the last amule version release and 6 months  since the last news. That is happenning? the project is dead? Emule has released a new version with protocol obfuse on kad and througth amule users away with this.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 03:41:06 PM »
Yeah, he project is dead. You can all go home now, without checking the dozens of threads per day this forum has, the constant changes in the aMule SVN, the fact that the 2.2.0 version is highly anticipated even if overdue, the fact that aMule has had since before the final eMule new release the same Kademlia network code, including the protocol obfuscation, and... well, pretty much everything that's going on.

Just make sure you turn off the light if you're the last one leaving.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 09:27:24 PM »
sorry i didn't check the svn version nor the forum.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 09:32:22 PM »
You didn't notice a forum you are posting in?
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 09:41:47 PM »
i am a member since yesterday.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 01:08:15 AM »
I wanted to write a new news post, but other things had priority, I'll do it in the next days.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2008, 07:38:39 AM »
In my opinion aMule's release model is a bit weird. You seem to be doing plenty of changes while neglecting to do a regular release. People (and distro maintainers) are confused because they stick to the latest release, which is useless now. I think you should pick your best stable snapshot and declare it 2.2, then keep adding things like you are doing now and in some months (6?) pick another good snapshot and declare it 2.2.1, 2.3 etc.

The way it looks now is like a race for perfection, as if 2.2.0 would be the final release ever, so its never coming out... Thankfully Ubuntu picked a snapshot (svn20080218) for 8.04, but Debian Sid still uses 2.1.3... (experimental containing a recent one).

In short, evaluate to do periodic "imperfect" releases of the best you have at certain point in time.
I suggest following the trend of a 6 month release cycle used by Openbsd, Gnome and Ubuntu.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2008, 08:57:08 AM »
aMule has always released when the team considers the cvs/svn to be worth releasing. Sticking to a fixed timeframe like 6 months is, in my opinion, wrong for a lot of reasons.
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lfroen

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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 09:49:39 AM »
Well, Kry, guy has a point. If you ever worked in some industry, (and I suppose you do), you know that schedule makes sense. You don't have to literally stick to 1/2 year cycles, but you'd better to stick to some schedule.
And who is current project admin anyway?! Where's his response?
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 10:50:24 AM »
I agree that we should have released a new stable version long ago, but we didn't. Making a precipitous release now won't help anybody.

lfroen: Currently we have no clear "leader", but decide the developmental roadmap in discussions between team members.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 11:38:08 AM »
svn log -r 7927
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2008, 02:16:17 PM »
Code: (docs/AUTHORS) [Select]
| Maintainer(s):                                                                   |
|    K. B.              aka deltaHF           <deltahf@amule.org>                  |
|    Mikkel Schubert    aka Xaignar           <xaignar@amule.org>                  |
|    Marcelo Jimenez    aka Phoenix           <phoenix@amule.org>                  |
|                                                                                  |
| Developer(s):                                                                    |
|    Alex Martinez      aka Unleashed         <alex@unleashed.kicks-ass.org>       |
|    Ariano Bertacca    aka bootstrap         <ariano@hirnriss.net>                |
|    Dévai Tamás        aka GonoszTopi        <gonosztopi@amule.org>               |
|    efe                aka the polish        <thepolish@vipmail.ru>               |
|    Jacobo Vilella     aka Jacobo221         <jacobo221@amule.org>                |
|    Jayson Cowan       aka hellimod          <jayson@spelljammer.com>             |
|    Ken Thomases       aka ken               <ken@codeweavers.com>                |
|    Leonid Froenchenko aka lfroen            <lfroen@gmail.com>                   |
|    Patrizio Bassi     aka Hetfield          <hetfield@amule.org>                 |
|    Pedro De Oliveira  aka falso             <falso@rdk.homeip.net>               |
|    Stefan Baldus      aka stefanero         <stefanero@amule.org>                |
|    Tobias Ottmar      aka Citroklar         <citroklar@gmx.net>                  |

Watching activities of the last 2 months, that makes 3 active devs (malapraxis missing in the list btw), one busy translation-maintainer and zero maintainers.
They are doing a hell of a job right now, but will be hard-pressed to get out a release that thinly spread.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2008, 02:25:20 PM »
Quote from: wuischke on May 25, 2008, 10:50:24 AM
lfroen: Currently we have no clear "leader", but decide the developmental roadmap in discussions between team members.
I did not asked for "leader" whatever it means, but for project admin - clearly defined role. WTF is this "roadmap" you're talking about? Anyway, I was talking about schedule, not roadmap.
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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2008, 04:44:47 PM »
Upon me retiring, Xaignar and phoenix ( because deltaHF is kinda AWOL ) are sharing any administrative tasks.
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lfroen

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Re: amule is a dead project?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2008, 05:54:41 PM »
Quote from: Kry on May 25, 2008, 04:44:47 PM
Upon me retiring, Xaignar and phoenix ( because deltaHF is kinda AWOL ) are sharing any administrative tasks.
Funny. I don't remember any of them commenting on "release or not" issues. Talk about "leader"
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