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Kry

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RC6 Release!
« on: September 30, 2004, 10:14:00 PM »

Ok, RC6 this weekend.

I swear.

Bugged or not bugged, working or not working, but RC6 this weekend.

(99% sure it will be not bugged and working but, who knows ;))


Changelog is well... long. Will post it soon :)

Yes, I said soon. Any problem? :P


We want also to welcome our Brand New Developer: GonoszTopi! :D. He came, he patched, he got to be developer. So you know what to do, people: get patches for the aMule team! We want YOU on the team (but only if you are evil enough).

Unless a suddent change of mind, GonoszTopi will be in charge of the revamping of the EC code, so that core/gui communication and amulecmd/amuleweb get much faster than it is. So please all give a big round of applausses to him!

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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2004, 01:26:16 AM »

i´m really waiting rc6... i hope it works well!
lets wait! :)
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2004, 02:01:20 AM »

clap clap clap GonoszTopi ;-)

"weekend", "soon", "I swear" <- hum... xP
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Bravooooo ! Bravooo !!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 09:44:45 AM »

Clap clap clap clap !!!!
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 02:16:45 PM »

yeah, applause, and besides of that: aMule in CVS is actually around  0.75 MB smaller.

That's a great job.
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 03:12:36 PM »

Well, that's just from removing unused images and other files ;)
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gtk2 ?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 05:17:37 PM »

Look I'm not bugging you developers  :]
It's just a question...

Thanks
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 05:30:32 PM »

hey
gkt2 is working
if !!!!!!!!
you use wxGTK 2.5.1 or higher!!!
I am would recommend you to wait also till 3rd oct and get wxGTK 2.5.3, this is the best choice since you have good speed and also a working webserver with 2.5.3

compile wxGTK with
--enable-optimize --enable-gtk2 --prefix=/usr/

and if you want
--enable-unicode

this will work without problem. there are some gtk2 version where wxGTK is buggy with, espially the new once like in gentoo. but try it yourself.
compile amule rc6 with
--enable-optimize --disable-debug
and if you want
--enable-webserver
for example

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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2004, 08:55:58 PM »

Nice . :baby:
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2004, 09:37:31 PM »

nevermind...

just days like these i don't feel like living.

useless to ask why...life is inherently unfair, I must make do with what is dealt me.

thanks for supporting xmule.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2004, 09:51:32 PM by HopeSeekr »
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 05:17:28 AM »

Ted, thanks for coming around, but please, leave us alone :)
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 09:06:34 AM »

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Originally posted by HopeSeekr
nevermind...

just days like these i don't feel like living.

useless to ask why...life is inherently unfair, I must make do with what is dealt me.

thanks for supporting xmule.

I've been following the situation of xMule and aMule for a while. It's nothing personal, but...if you release software under the GPL license, you can expect things like this. Open source soft is FREE (free as freedom of speech ;) ), and anybody is free to take it, modify it, fork it, develop or not develop it, etc...so don't say that life is unfair... :P

Also, if you've lost a lot of devs (who have passed to develop aMule), it's your problem, not theirs. I remember you that they are also free to develop either xMule or aMule. If the devs left xMule, try to retake them with convincing and mature arguments, look for another devs, or do xMule alone, but don't come here complaining about it. You are going to win nothing with this.

Nothing else. Sorry for my bad english :P

[On-topic] Waiting for RC6..... :P :P :P I hope that someone will release a RPM for Mandrake soon....
« Last Edit: October 02, 2004, 09:14:22 AM by Targaryen »
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2004, 03:58:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Targaryen

I've been following the situation of xMule and aMule for a while. It's nothing personal, but...if you release software under the GPL license, you can expect things like this. Open source soft is FREE (free as freedom of speech ;) ), and anybody is free to take it, modify it, fork it, develop or not develop it, etc...so don't say that life is unfair... :P

Also, if you've lost a lot of devs (who have passed to develop aMule), it's your problem, not theirs. I remember you that they are also free to develop either xMule or aMule. If the devs left xMule, try to retake them with convincing and mature arguments, look for another devs, or do xMule alone, but don't come here complaining about it. You are going to win nothing with this.

Ive also followed the lmule/xmule/amule/sharedeamon history before choosing a client.

At one point i read a post of his (on his other site) where he moaned about the efects of the GPL; also one of the reasons for the split (for what i could gather) was also his decision to go closed source on a future version of the client.

A very strong reason why i didnt choose xmule was because of him; a lot of what he does gives him a very bad image, as far as im concerned:

 - the constant re-writing of his posts (as evidenced  here),
 - the constant moaning,
 - the idea that he gives, 80% of the time, that xmule is an one-man show (true, he probably does a lot of the work, and im not questioning his quality as a developer)  when it is (and should be considered) a team work.

So in the end he achieves what he wants, ppl associate him with xmule, but its the project loss.

He may be a good developer, but isnt a good project manager (obvious).
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2004, 04:49:36 PM »

The difference is that we praise Tiku. Tiku was the guy that made ALL possible, while HopeSeekr keeps telling that he was the one. Without Tiku, we would have no real ed2k client for linux. It's a shame that Tiku is mostly unknown by the vast majority of the users, and we'll have to fix it.

Tiku ported ALL eMule 0.26 to linux, ALONE. COMPLETELY ALONE. Later, other people joined, xMule was forked from it (yes ted, forked from it. I was there), and the former lmule developers not on xMule dropped it. And Tiku dissapeared.


Tiku is our God our Mentat, our Sensei. Without Tiku, there would be nothing.

On the other side, HopeSeekr's work on xMule the first 3 months, when Madcat and I were there, made Macat leave xMule to develoop SD from scratch, and while I was away for personal problems, BigBob forked it to aMule. When I got back, after knowing the reason for both guys to leave and fork, I decided to join aMule, for I had already had too much of HopeSeekr too. And yes, closing source of xMule (which, btw, is completely impossible unless one write it from scratch), was one of the reasons.

The main problem here is the complete different view of developing free software that HopeSeekr has, compared to i.e, the aMule team or Madcat.

*) HopeSeekr has always stated that he wants to make profit from xMule. He is always asking for donations, he is always stating how much money he wants because he works on xMule for FREE and users 'owe' him the donations, etc. He wants to close xMule's source because he wants to make profit from it. One of the main reasons Madcat and I left, was because he wanted to do 'xMule plus' (which can be seen on sourceforge.net as registered project). "xMule plus" would be a closed source client which you could use only if you paid a certain amount of money every x time, and that would get you first on queue on any "xMule plus" AND xMule clients. Madcat and I of course refused to do so, and, in the end, that was the main reason of we leaving, despite the fact that HopeSeekr is a person we both do not like, for lots of reasons that shouldn't be stated here, as I'm trying to just give a '3rd party' view of all the xMule/aMule history.

*) On the other hand, aMule developers and Madcat (our guest star in some releases), and aMule testers, and everyone on the aMule comunity that I know of, have a very different view. We make aMule for the users, and we see it as a contribution to the world. We spend our spare time developing, browsing forums, helping people, translating, taking care of the #amule on freenode, and so on. But what makes us different is the we NEVER look for a profit on aMule. If it comes, it's welcome, for we never refuse the donations, of course. But you will never see us asking directly for a donation or giving the image that the users 'owe' something to us. It's US who owe the people the fact that they use aMule, and support us in any way. We're friends, and we do this for fun and, why not, for improving our skills and be proud of ourselves.

With such different views of the free software world, HopeSeekr could never work with us. And that's why he has his project (tho I want to point again that he didn't make it, for Tiku was the one making lmule and xMule was just lmule back then), and we have our project.

We just request to be able to have peace, tho he keeps attacking us in every way (eMule project posts, spamming at #wxwidgets on freenode, spamming on the very #amule on freenode, wxWidgets mailing lists, lphant project forums, even on a discussion about the Mozilla license I found direct attacks to the aMule project coming from him, and of course, and at least one or two times per week, on xmule's website and forums. And that's only what I can remember with the big hangover I have right now. There are much more).

But what I will NEVER let him say is that he is the creator of xMule or that aMule would never be without him. It was TIKU, for god's shake, who made all. ALL. HopeSeekr contributed to lmule project for about a month, then to xMule for 3 months, and NOTHING more is contributed by him on the aMule sourcecode. The fact he keeps developing xMule doesn't change the fact that aMule has been being developed for more than a year already. total time contributed by HopeSeekr: about 4 months. The total time contributed by almost all developers of aMule is much more than HopeSeekr's one. I have been contributing, since I joined lmule/xMule (I joined just in the middle of the fork), for 14 months (June 2003 + Sep 2003 - Oct 2004). Xaignar has been here developing more than half a year. DeltaHF has been here for a year. Phoenix, aprox. same time than Xaignar. Hetfield contributed to xMule and then to aMule, has been here as long as DeltaHF. BigBog after forking xMule to aMule has been here till the administrative probles on Feb 2004. Stefanero, lfroen, shakraw, falso, niet, ThePolish (efe), Jacobo, Unleashed, everyone active now and the former developers (don't forget Emilio Sandoz, lemonfan, etc etc - sorry if I can't remember everyone), had been here for more than 4 months.


There's another fact to consider: bedboi and pure_ascii, former lmule developers, has been on aMule, while not on xMule. Uberpenguin (HELLO UBER! HOW'S YOUR KROKODIL DOING?) had contributed the xMule logo and then the aMule logo (and he's not credited by HopeSeekr on the xMule website, btw, even when he uses it), lots of icons, and generally to keeping the good mood and the friendship we all aMule developers/contributors/etc share.


Hum. I'll finish my post here, too much to read already. But please, never think HopeSeekr is responsive for the *Mule on linux. I fell so bad about Tiku, the REAL one, everytime I read that, that I really feel like posting things like this one.

Enough said.
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Re: RC6 Release!
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2004, 07:29:37 PM »

well, nothing else to add to Kry's and Seagull posts...

...although I remember you that open source software doesn't mean free software, so Hopeseeker was in his right of close-source it (if he rewrites it completely, I think....I don't remember the complete GPL), and make ppl pay for it. But, equally, aMule devs were in their right to fork xMule while it was GPL, and are in their right to continue developing aMule as they want... 8o
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