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gizmatron

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managing server list?
« on: January 09, 2005, 08:55:22 PM »
hi folks just recently downloaded the osX version of the amule and it worked first time no problems..i was using xdonkey and my query is regarding the server connection list..i dont really understand what it is telling me/or how to use it..for example in xdonkey i could connect to several servers from the list at once ..in amule  if i double click on a server to connect to it, it first appears to disconnect me from the current server..does this mean i can only connect to one server at once and if so am i only downloading from that server or from the entire network? if i am only able to download from one server at once what happens once i have downloaded all the available chunks of a file available on that server [ assuming the file is still incomplete ] does the amule auto connect me to another server on the network to get the rest or what?also if i quit amule [ which i have to do regularly as it slows my poor old g3 down no matter how i restrict the bandwidth etc in the preferences.......santa didn't hear my request for a new g5 dual :] ] then when i reconnect i am connected to a different server, but my downloads appear to restart before i get the connected icon at the bottom left of the screen...would like some info to help me understand what is going on so i can manage things to my advantage ...all my other queries i found in the forum/FAQ ......cool app by the way :baby:
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2005, 11:18:24 PM »
a) you are not downloading files from edonkey servers -- the servers only give you 'sources' (i.e. addresses of the clients that have parts of the files that you want to download). once you got some sources for your files you could even disconnect from the server, as the file transfers are only happening between the different clients on the network. (note: i don't recommend disconnecting, i just used it for illustrative purposes... ;))

b) you are not only getting sources from the server you are connected to but also from the other servers in your server list (over time). in addition, you get sources every time you are connecting to another amule/emule/mldonkey client.
mldonkey (on which xdonkey is based) is imho the only edonkey client that connects to multiple servers at once. for the reasons described above, there is very little advantage in doing so and because you are taking up 5 server slots instead of one, mldonkey's behavior is often considered bad for the network...

so the bottom line is: it helps to connect to a bigger server so that you get many sources immediately but you don't have to worry about switching to other servers over time or even connect to multiple ones at the same time... :)
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 05:16:39 PM »
oooookay ..so it really doesn't matter which server i am connected to ....if i do a local search i assume it just searches the clients on the same server as i am..correct?? if i get no results for the file i am looking for and do a global search it searches accross the entire network..correct?? does it make any difference to say download speeds or anything else if i download a file i found on a local search as compared to one i found on a global search...
so if i understand it correctly me being connected to a server is just a "doorway " through which i search for the files i want ...once i am downloading i am connected directly to the client and not really the server..mind you if i disconnect from the server i assume this means i am no longer going to show up on anyone elses searches for files [ unless they were already uploading something from me ] and so wont gain any "credits " etc..
the xdonkey worked okay but it was slow and dropped files never to resume regularly...the amule isn't quick but it does seem to just keep on going till the file is finished...one last question..the x donkey worked best when it was left running...once quit and relaunched it took ages to get going again..as i have to quit amule to run almost anything above a crawl on my g3 are there any disadvantages to not running it 24/7 apart from obviously not downloading anything whilst its not running....
oh and how do i make the invisible or hidden files such as .incoming etc visible  [ i'm using 10.3.7]

thanks for your patience  :)
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 05:42:06 PM »
Yes, you got everything right about servers. Servers are ony for searching files or sources, and the local search searchs on oyur server and global on everyone. Sources search are also done to all the network via UDP packets.


Now:

If you have a slow box like a G3, you would love to use not aMule but amule daemon. Sadly, I did never distribute it for Mac, because it was not stable and failing at that times. Now it works great, and you could run it and manage it via webserver. You can do all this downloading aMule cvs tarball and compiling yourself, tho this is hard work, or just waiting for me to bundle a aMule.zip having aMule, daemon, and webserver at least.

Daemon takes WAY less CPU.
 
And someday, you will be able to control it with the current GUI, just running it and closing it when needed. This is actively being worked on.

And, welcome :)
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 09:05:03 PM »
not really a problem..i dont have a problem with the cpu use i just leave it running overnight and when my wife is working on the computer...the amule screws with her use of word something horrible...you hit any key 5 times sure its not registering and then it suddenly does 5 responses at once...hehe :)) i just wanted to be sure i understood what was going on ...i tend to stay away from servers that look porn related as its not what i'm looking for but if it makes no difference through which server i am connected to the network ...who cares.. local searches are a bit faster than global but again we're talking seconds not hours...and if the file chunk search is accross the network as a whole not just the local server i'll just leave it overnight....if the daemon method is like the xdonkey web interface , [ ip 127.0.0.summat i think i remember ] then i have used that method but i dont really understand launching and compiling in terminal...one of the xdonkey dev's talked me through it at the time...last time i had anything to do with compiling was at college with Pascal [ and cobol .....now which comma did i type wrong in this 50000 lines of code ]  ?( anyway thanks for the help......great app

just a small thought about the daemon.....when you say about just running and closing do you mean i could just leave the daemon downloading in the background at all times and just open the GUI when i needed to do a new search or download or check how a file is going ...if it takes way less cpu this could be viable?? or i could just rob a bank and get a dual 1.5 ghz g5  ;)
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 09:10:52 PM »
oh and ps no one replied to the question about making invisible files visible....i keep running out of hard drive space and i think its because my various p2p apps all have invisible .incomplete files which i would like to look at and clean up .......they are probably full of so much crap i've aborted over the years ...i've only just got adsl [ i live in a tiny village in normandy in france] and using the dial up i gave up on so many downloads....the xdonkey was easy its incoming wasn't invisible so i could junk it periodically..anyway any help appreciated
« Last Edit: January 11, 2005, 09:13:24 PM by gizmatron »
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2005, 12:26:52 PM »
gizmatron, by default aMule puts partially downloaded files into /.aMule/Temp and completed downloads into /.aMule/Incoming.  Because ".aMule" starts with a period, it is hidden and the Finder won't normally show it.  You can use the Go -> Go To Folder menu item and enter ~/.aMule ("~" is an abbreviation for your home folder) to get the Finder to open it.  From there you can navigate normally.  A similar trick might work for your other p2p apps and their folders.

If the problem is that the files themselves are hidden (rather than the folders they are in), you'll have to use other techniques.  For example, you can use the Find command.  Set the property pop-up to "Visibility" and value pop-up to invisible items.
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Re: managing server list?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 08:22:23 PM »
haha  the invisible files option in the find did the trick....now why wasn't that in the osX help file...too easy i guess....thanks for the help...and if an option comes available for a non CPU intensive version of the amule or its daemon count me in...
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