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Eleksir

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Number of connected server
« on: July 04, 2005, 10:16:54 AM »
It should be a good idea to connect to more than one server at one time (like mlDonkey, it connects to 3 severs by default)
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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2005, 12:05:56 PM »
Please take a little search around the forum. This has been requested several times but will definitely never happen. Why? Because it a) harms the network and b) doesn't give you any advantage.You won't find more soures, you won't find sources faster and your download won't be faster. No, not at all...
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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2005, 01:35:56 PM »
mabe so, but if you think about kademlia and about donkey networks - difference between them is in existance of servers in donkey one, but kadmlia has decentralized architecture, which is more effective(in case if you've got a good connection) but multiconnection, I think, violate donkey network standarts, as far as I remember servers (in donkey net case) work like DNS - they cache IP's of peers, ISP's usualy provide 2 DNS for users.
anyway Servers have tendency to be offline time to time (due to maintaince or crashes), it just for backup to keep another one connection to another server, reconnection is okay, but doubling in this case, I think it is sane thing(it's not for sppedup, it's for stability), if I'm wrong please explain why(how it harms network?)

P.S. and of course multiconnection is suggestion, not order :)
« Last Edit: July 04, 2005, 01:37:24 PM by Eleksir »
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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2005, 02:03:25 PM »
well if you want multiple server connections because of backup purpose
check in preference the option -> reconnect on server lost, and you have your backup :P

about your multiconnection, the servers are rarly used for sources finding, most sources are found during source exchange with other clients.
so mostly servers are only used to get
-> startup sources
and
-> search

and to search for files you can always use the global search option.

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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2005, 04:03:58 PM »
You mean that if I, after finding at least 1 peer, click on button named "Disconnect", then I'll gain other peers from found one, right? but in my case this trick not working, maybe you mean kademlia, but Kry says "no way, at least not me will be that person, who will implement kad to amule", so kad isn't work in 2.0.3

you say: use Global option in search, in this case server will send request to other servers and send results to me(reference model of donkey servers, i don't know if amule use other), but if I send request separately to each server (and make them search locally in their cache and don't ask neibour servers) theoretically it should be more lighter quering model for servers (and heavier for asking peer, but not too much) and if I query servers simultaneousily I'll reach the answer faster (on fast connection f.e. 128/1024 or 256/1024) then if I query single server to search globally(and do I have to remind you that each global search have server to open additional sockets, connect to other servers, query them, recieve from them answer, it takes not only time, but system resources too, incerase interserver traffic(in Rasorback2 this traffic is huge), anyway donkey net needs some sane approach)
« Last Edit: July 04, 2005, 04:26:26 PM by Eleksir »
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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2005, 04:10:21 PM »
1st:
Kry is workin on kad, but its not somehting you implement in aMule in a couple of days

2nd.
I did not say get 1source and wait....
you get some sources from teh server, and then the clients will exchange sources with each otehr. so say after 100 or 300 clients you could basically disconnect from teh server. since they dont matter taht much anymore. most sources you get now, you will get throuw source exchange within the clients. that has NOTHING todo with Kad. thats a normal e/a Mule feature.
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Re: Number of connected server
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2005, 04:37:52 PM »
ok, ok. let's close thread.

about kad - it's as dificult as rework almost from scratch whole amule, and I understand Kry almost every one scream "c'mon make it, it's not so hard, and you just don't want to implement (you lazy one) and so on..." but no one didn't _really_ help yet with kademlia.
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