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twinkerzzz

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Just Started - several questions
« on: December 22, 2005, 02:36:16 PM »

Hi

okay ive installed amule 2.0.3 on my os x 3.9

Seems to be okay
started typing some search names......

so a couple of points & questions.

1. Am i right in thinking that only the search results which are highlighted in blue are currently available as a connection ?  Can i try & get something only in black writing ?
2. I started to download a package & it seemed to indicate everything was hunky dory BUT:
    a/ i could not work out where it was downlooading the file too ?
    b/ in the bite devi box in bottom right hand corner, the connection address was given as some
        sex address which did not seem at all right for what i was downloading .... i checked in the list
        of servers that were loaded when i set up and there is indeed quite a number of xxx rated
        addresses........?
    c/ I stopped the download & did a search in os xmy finder , but could not find any trace of the
         file...?http://forum.amule.org/images/bunfirlite/smilies/confused.gif
3. I noticed there seems not to be a way to pause the download?
4. If you consistantly type in searches the result bar just grows off the application at each end----seems like you  must clear the  previous searches anything over 4 searches to avoid this problem?

thanks for your time

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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2005, 03:38:25 PM »

Welcome!

1. Blue indicates, that there are more sources for this file. You could try the black one as well, but if you've bad luck the file is incomplete and it will most likely need more time to finish.
2.a) If you want to know the location, where amule stores the file, see below.
b) The servers name does not matter as well as the url. It's just advertisement.
But: Some servers manipulate the search results, avoid these servers like e.g. the big bang. (Delete 'em in your server list)
c)Take a look at the Preferences->directories
There you'll find the paths to your incoming and temp-dirs. The temp-dir is the place where incomplete downloads are stored with a numeric name.
If a download finishes it's copied to the Incoming-dir.
3. See http://forum.amule.org/thread.php?threadid=7564

Edit: And fear to take a look into the wiki ;)
« Last Edit: December 22, 2005, 03:40:49 PM by wuischke »
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2005, 03:59:02 PM »

hi

thanks - a couple more questions...........

1. i cant seem to find my temp-dir .... I'm looking in my home as the address given
     was simply users/(me)/a.mule/temp   - but there isnt an a.mule folder....?

2. How do i tell which servers i should remove from that list ? You say bigbang - is there a definitive list of one's recommended to remove. The server address i was concerned about was freeOsex.com which was supposedly supplying me with an audio editing software torrent -

3. Is there any way of telling which results are currently active ?

Thanks again for your time

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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2005, 04:33:58 PM »

1. I think it's .amule. A dot in front of the name hides the dir, please search in the forum for help, I forgot what you have to on a mac and don't use one. But it was not hard. ;)
2. Well, in MY humble opinion KAD-only is the best choice (no servers at all). See http://forum.amule.org/thread.php?threadid=5051 for details on how to use CVS with kad support on mac.
Regarding the servers: Another Forum claims, that the following servers are OK:
Quote
(emuleforum.net/t127832.html)
Razorback 2.0
DonkeyServer No1
DonkeyServer No2
ChezToff
Saugcenter
DonkeyServer No3
Asyrix 2
MP3search
Remove all the other servers, you wont need 'em.

3. Sorry, I don't know what you're refering to, please specify your question.
But if I guessed right, than take a look at this screenshot: http://www.amule.org/images/screenshots/transfer.png
All files with the status 'downloading' are sort of active.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2005, 04:35:54 PM by wuischke »
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twinkerzzz

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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2005, 12:20:08 PM »

hi
thanks wulschke

thats a kick start & pointing me..... somewhere.....!
I am new to amule so terms like KAD & CVS are still a bit mysterious to me.


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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2005, 02:09:20 PM »

wuischke is, as always, giving you good answers.  :)

Here's some additional information:

The servers do not provide you with the files.  They provide you with information about other computers which are running ed2k software (aMule, eMule, etc., etc.) who claim to provide pieces of the file you are looking for.  It's those other computers which provide you the file data.  So, it doesn't matter what server you are connected to.  Servers are only "phone books".

Kad (short for "Kademlia", although that doesn't make it any clearer ;) ) is a feature for finding other computers which share the files you seek without using a server.  It isn't available in version 2.0.3 of aMule, it's only available in the developmental versions for aMule.

CVS is a tool that program developers use to manage the source code of the program while we're all working on it at the same time.  Each night a snapshot of our work-in-progress is taken from CVS and the source code from that moment is made available so people can get it and compile the latest and greatest (but possibly bug-riddled) version of aMule.  These are referred to as "CVS snapshots" or "CVS versions".  For the Mac, lionel77 occasionally does the compiling step for us all and posts CVS binaries here.

One other thing to know about recent CVS versions of aMule: the configuration directory is no longer in a hidden location.  So, once you upgrade to a CVS version of aMule it will be easier to see your Temp directory, etc.
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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2005, 02:32:50 PM »

When i looked at downloading amule, i opted for the ready-guilt-gui version 2.0.3 for mac
This is because i am not a programme developer and also i didnt really understand the whole compile it yourself instructions.

1. from what you say i have the downgraded version and a self compiled version would be a more savy app (?)
Also :
"..........aMule-Mac.CVS.2005-11-03.noDebug.zip » 25652 Downloads  
CVS Snapshot build for Mac OS X. See forum for more details.
Date: 03/11/2005 Filesize: 4MB » View Full Info

Also :

Regular version: aMule-Mac.CVS.2005-12-21.noDebug.zip (5 MB; uses wxWidgets CVS 2005-12-17)
Debug version: aMule-Mac.CVS.2005-12-21.debug.zip (35 MB; wxWidgets CVS 2005-12-17)
The only difference between the two versions (apart from their sizes) is that the debug version allows you to report a backtrace in case of a crash, which we can use to identify and fix the underlying cause of the crash..........."

2. These would be  examples of a recent cvs compile posted for use (?) If i downloaded the most up to date would it be gui based replacement of what i'm using or more for if i was into the whole developing & compiling thing ?

3. Would you recommend i upgrade to the above mentioned cvs mac version over the 2.0.3 i'm using, if so should i go for the de-buged version, presuming that means it's bugs have been sorted ?

4. Can i have both 2.0.3 & the most recent cvs installed /  running at the same time ?

sorry, more inquisitive questioning  

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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2005, 05:41:01 PM »

It's OK.  Questions are good.  :)

For most platforms, CVS versions only come as source code which you have to compile for yourself.  However, here on the Mac we're lucky and have lionel77.  :)  He produces binaries for us, which is another word for an already-compiled application.  It's just like the one you've already downloaded, just based off of more recent work.  There's no complicated work on your end.  Just double-click it and go.

The difference between the "debug" and "noDebug" versions has nothing to do with whether or not we've worked the bugs out.  Functionally, they should be pretty close to identical.  The "debug" version has a bunch of information embedded into the program so that, if you get a crash, you might provide meaningful feedback to us so that we can figure out what's going on and fix it.  The "noDebug" version does not have this information.  So, if you get a crash you won't be able to provide much meaningful feedback and we will have a hard time knowing why it's crashing.  The only advantage of the "noDebug" version is that it's a smaller download.

As for recommendations, it depends a bit on your personality.  The 2.0.3 release should be pretty stable.  The more recent CVS versions has new features but may also have stability problems and bugs, although lionel77 tries to pick times when things are working well to build his binaries.  Also, 2.0.3 isn't perfect (we wish!) and lots of known bugs have been identified and fixed in CVS.  So, the choice is between using a stable version with old bugs, or a CVS version with (probably) new bugs.  Personally, I would recommend that you try a CVS version.

That brings us to your other question.  You can go back to 2.0.3 if a CVS version isn't working well enough for you.  However, there are some issues created by the fact that aMule's configuration directory has moved.  The CVS versions are smart enough to know about the move and transfer your existing configuration directory to the new location, but obviously the 2.0.3 version doesn't know about the move.  So, moving forward from 2.0.3 to CVS, or one CVS to a more recent CVS, is safe.  Moving backward requires a little work on your part.  If you want to do that, you can read about the procedure in lionel77's thread about the CVS binaries, or come back and ask for help.
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Re: Just Started - several questions
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2005, 05:53:25 PM »

thats great

1.
i think ive read through briefly something already about the moving of folders required which you are refering to - i will try & track it down again.

2. I'm taking it that once i install a cvs binary its best not to run 2.0.3 until i understand the directory folder issue & how to manage it. But i'm assuming it's okay to leave both installed in theory.


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